The full implementation of the 1991 Paris Peace Agreement is the only 
alternative to lead Cambodia toward freedom and democracy. 
Presently, Cambodia is a police state just as were Poland, Czechoslovakia, 
Hungary and Bulgaria during their occupation by the Red Army of the Soviet 
Union. The elections in Central Europe during the Red Army occupation were 
merely a masquerade for the communist control of these countries by the Soviet 
Union. 
It was the same in the Cambodian parliamentary elections held last month. The 
European Union said the elections failed to meet international standards 
because they were biased in favor of the ruling party. Prime Minister Hun Sen's 
Cambodian People's Party claimed a landslide victory, ensuring that he will 
keep the seat he has held for 23 years. 
In the same way as the police states of Central Europe, the Cambodian People’s 
Party has absolute control of all aspects of Cambodian life: the police, the 
army, the administration, education, healthcare, the economy, land, real 
estate, natural resources and the National Election Committee, without 
transparency and true representative oversight. 
As in Central Europe then, elections in Cambodia are a sham. 
Although less apparent, the People's Army of Vietnam's occupation of Cambodia 
was comparable to the Soviet Union's Red Army's occupation of the Eastern 
European countries. Prime Minister Hun Sen once publicly admitted in a speech 
broadcast on national radio, "Yes, I am a Vietnamese puppet. More than 100,000 
Vietnamese soldiers still occupy Cambodia." 
Hence, Vietnam had Cambodia under its thumb. 
While under Vietnam's control, CPP leaders signed the 1979, 1982, 1983, 1985 
and 2005 treaties with Vietnam in violation of Cambodia's territorial integrity 
and sovereignty, and ceded lands and territorial seas to Vietnam, Laos and 
Thailand. 
Through these treaties, millions of Vietnamese flooded into Cambodia, and the 
majority of them have been authorized by the NEC to vote for the CPP, out a 
total of 8 million voters. Simultaneously, several hundred thousand legitimate 
Cambodians had their voting rights "ripped off," according to Puthea Hang, 
executive director of the Neutral and Impartial Committee for Free and Fair 
Elections in Cambodia. Without a doubt, these millions of immigrant Vietnamese 
voters have artificially increased the number of CPP-elected members. 
How can we rectify the wrongs committed by the CPP and the Socialist Republic 
of Vietnam, the Kingdom of Thailand and the Lao People's Democratic Republic 
toward Cambodia? 
The solution is the integral implementation of the Paris Peace Agreement of 
Oct. 23, 1991. 
Under the CPP's watch, the elections have always been manipulated, rigged, 
unfair, and undemocratic. 
To reach the full implementation of the 1991 Paris Peace Agreement, we urge the 
opposition parties to stick to the following strategy in two stages: 
The two main opposition parties, the Sam Rainsy Party and the Human Rights 
Party must, as they have already done, reject the results of the July 27 
election and continue to do so. 
What exactly does it mean? This means that SRP and HRP must agree that they 
were awarded respectively 26 and three "elected members,” but they must claim 
that they should have obtained more than 29 seats. Therefore, they are 
contesting the validity of the mandate of the 90 CPP-elected members to the 
Parliament. 
Simply put, the three opponent parties are not rejecting their own 29 "elected 
members" to Parliament. 
Hence, Article 118 E. of the Electoral Laws did not apply to these 29 "elected 
members.” Therefore, the NEC cannot rip off the mandate of these 29 "elected 
members" of SRP and HRP to distribute these 29 seats to other parties, as Hun 
Sen declares. 
The first line of Article 76 of the Constitution of the Kingdom of Cambodia 
stipulates that the National Assembly consists of at least 120 members. This 
article will block the Fourth National Assembly from being fully constituted if 
any four of the "elected members" refuse to participate in the first session of 
the Fourth National Assembly. 
So, it needs only the non-participation in the first session of the Fourth 
National Assembly of any four "elected members" of SRP and HRP to block the 
Fourth National Assembly from being fully constituted. 
Conversely, if 120 "elected members" participate in the first session of the 
Fourth National Assembly – which will be convened by the king or, in his 
absence, Senate President Chea Sim – on Sept. 24, then the Fourth National 
Assembly will be de facto officially constituted because the CPP has at its 
disposal 90 "elected members.” 
"With a super majority of two-thirds, you can appoint a horse as president," a 
U.S. congressman once said. 
Hence, a fortiori, the CPP with its 90 elected members – more than the 
two-thirds majority, and more than the number required for a quorum of 87 – can 
appoint anyone as president and the next day can strip that person of all 
parliamentary immunity rights, then put him on trial by a kangaroo court and 
execute him as a traitor to the nation. Such a kangaroo court already condemned 
Norodom Rannaridh in absentia as a traitor. 
Hence, the 90 seats for the CPP are not acceptable because they indicate that 
the elections were not really free and fair. In a true democracy, no political 
party would get more than a two-thirds majority.. Only when the elections are 
not free and fair, such as under communism or fascism, can one party get more 
than a two-thirds majority of seats. 
With 90 CPP "elected members,” Cambodia will be forever under the dictatorship 
of the CPP. 
According to NEC rules, the first session of the Fourth Assembly is to be held 
on Sept. 24. Therefore, according to article 78, the mandate of the Third 
National Assembly will terminate on Sept. 24. From that day on the Hun Sen 
regime will become the caretaker government, legally empowered only to conduct 
routine business, and will have no political and economic mandate to act on 
behalf of Cambodia. This already happened during 11 months of 2003-2004 until 
the unconstitutional package vote put an end to the stalemate. 
If four "elected members" refuse to participate in the first session of the 
Fourth National Assembly, then Cambodia will have neither a National Assembly 
nor a government. 
Therefore, by blocking the Fourth Assembly from being fully constituted, the 
king, if he has the courage to do so, can ask for new elections to be organized 
and supervised by the United Nations, which is the only way to bring about the 
full implementation of the 1991 Paris Peace Agreement. 
This is the only way to cut the Gordian knot and dismantle the police state 
that has ruled Cambodia since the signature of the 1991 Paris Peace Agreement. 
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London Olympics: 'Tacky' 2012 handover show attacked on official website
London's eight-minute handover show at the Beijing Olympics closing ceremony 
has been labelled "tacky" and "a complete disgrace" by furious comments on the 
official 2012 website. 
Last Updated: 4:45PM BST 28 Aug 2008
 
British dancers perform as a double-decker bus arrives during the closing 
ceremony for the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games Photo: AFP 
Britons proud of their athletes' achievements have vented their frustrations at 
being left "the laughing stock of the world" by the show, which featured rocker 
Jimmy Page, X-Factor winner Leona Lewis and footballer David Beckham. 
The routine, which also included a performance by urban dance troupe ZooNation 
and the use of a red London bus, was meant to showcase the capital as the new 
host city of the Games. 
But many have objected to its informality - and the scruffy state of Mayor 
Boris Johnson waving the flag - compared to the neat choreography of the 
Chinese display. 
The official London 2012 website , the BBC and other sites have been bombarded 
with negative comments.. 
One wrote: "Well I must say the handover ceremony was a complete disgrace. It 
really seemed like some nursery panto compared to the no-expense-spared West 
End show which was done by the people of Beijing. Absolutely no idea how to 
market London." 
Another commented: "I was ashamed to watch the handover. The whole London 2012 
thing is cheap, tackey (sic) and so inappropriate. Imagine a rock concert with 
Punk Rockers outside Buck Palace! Imagine a London Mayor, tie askew, hands in 
pocket at the Birdsnest (sic). God help us, we will be the laughing stock of 
the world." 
However, others have pointed out that Britain's whirling display emphasised the 
country's democratic traditions, as opposed to the rigid uniformity of the 
jaw-dropping Chinese spectacle. 
The handover show also chimed with a promise by Tessa Jowell, the Olympics 
minister, that London will host the "fun Olympics". 
The British web attack comes hot on the heels of scathing criticism in the 
Chinese press. 
The Titan Sports Daily dismissed Page and Lewis as "not famous enough" and went 
on: "Unlike the Chinese custom, which tends not to reveal their weakness to the 
outsiders, the British seem to like to laugh about their stupidity in a funny 
way. During the performance, when the London bus pulled over, all the 
passengers waiting for the bus rushed into the door at the same time, which 
truly damaged the British image." 
A spokesman for the London Organising Committee of the Olympic Games (Locog), 
which organised the show, said: "When you have a global audience of 1.5 billion 
people, you aren't going to please absolutely everyone, but the general 
response has been positive and we were very pleased with the reaction the show 
received in the stadium and from the feedback we have received since, both in 
the UK and around the world." 
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----- Original Message ----
From: kangaroo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:55:32 AM
Subject: Re: The world leader in corruption is ... Cambodia.


If Vietnamese is doing what you are saying, Cambodians seem to be
stupid to allow it happening in their own country.
My friend,
Cambodians are far more intelligent than that. They know when they
loose their own country, and when they loose their own country. That's
right. They only know how to loose. They have never thought about
winning. They only think about powre and their own individual
rightiousness.
That's all they care.
That's why Cambodia is where it is today.
That's why Cambodians are still fighting each others and blame the
unfortunates on Vietnamese or others.
That is the truth.


On Aug 27, 7:34 am, เดช <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> surprise after for thousand years all kings & queens and leaders owned
> the whole nations and amassed wealths whilst pple work so hard can't
> get a bolw of meal, i really appreciate ur input.
>
> corruption in cambodia is not a culture of only cambodia it is pple'
> cultures. corruption is everywhere and in develop nations like usa and
> european.
> cambodia has too many general with many stars never been in schools,
> they report to the vietnamese, the vietnamese put them on top as ears
> and eyes. they are corrupted from fathers to children. it is a cold
> war the vietnamese use. to keep cambodia remains under develop nation.
> corruption can be decreased but can't be eliminated.
>
> this bozo kangaro knew what? bulshit, who needs moral school from u?
>
> On Aug 26, 8:23 pm, Eddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Sadly as usual this discussion has descended into a tit for tat name
> > calling session. I hope the nom de plume "destinyformankind" is a sick
> > joke or god help us. Oh! and by the way check where your fingers have
> > been.
> > As "kangaroo" stated originally corruption is unfortunately a cultural
> > problem. If not, why do so many Cambodians who no not live in Cambodia
> > engage in the practice?. Admittedly not to the same extent as is done
> > in Cambodia (and a lot of other countries) but with the advantage of
> > free heath cover, pensions, reasonable if not well paid jobs and
> > social services do the still feel it is necessary to try to "cheat the
> > system". Registering the vehicle in grandma's name for the pensioner
> > discount, using her pension card to obtain healthcare and medicine
> > discounts, putting the pensioner member of the family as house owners
> > name to obtain utility discounts etc. Whilst it may be considered
> > "smart" and may be at the lower end of the corruption scale it non the
> > less is a form of corruption. Then of course there are the immigration
> > "experts" who for a not inconsiderable amount will "jump the queue"
> > for you.
> > Surprisingly these practices take place without any Vietnamese
> > influence, how could that possibly be?.
> > This of course does not address the problem as it exists within
> > Cambodia. Human nature being what it is if you can see someone higher
> > up the tree getting away with it the chances are you will give it a
> > try. This means that if those at the top of the tree are unable or
> > unwilling to engage in corrupt practices they will make damn sure
> > those lower down will not do it either.
> > Unfortunately the hope that foreign educated Cambodians returning to
> > Cambodia will help to curb corruption is a false hope, as many of
> > those returning use their better education to engage in more
> > sophisticated forms of corruption.
> > As foreign tourism has become a major part of the Cambodian economy
> > corruption is becoming a well known disincentive to overseas visitors.
> > Why does a $20 entry visa suddenly become $25? and prices for known
> > price items change determined by your language.
>
> > On Aug 27, 12:10 am, เดช <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > bozo kangaroo. u r a refugee a homeless. i know cambodia like my own
> > > fingers.
>
> > > On Aug 26, 9:04 am, kangaroo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Now you are showing the real destructive element of the Cambodian
> > > > soicety.
> > > > Reread you comments.
> > > > At first, you were doing very good by sticking to subject presented.
> > > > Then you say something completely out of the context because you can't
> > > > win the original.
> > > > Cambodian people do that all the time.
> > > > They try bully themselves and destroy the others when they cannot win.
> > > > How dum can it be?
> > > > Yet do you call that a country?
> > > > That's idiots.
>
> > > > On Aug 26, 6:53 am, เดช <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > bozo kangaroo.
> > > > > u r a refugee ur citizenship doesn't make you a yanki when the white
> > > > > supremacy look at you, u r always a homeless to them.
> > > > > i have breakfast in pp, drink beer in sv, dinner in bangkok, and see
> > > > > movie in singapore every day, i knew what it likes.
> > > > > your record is not matched what has been happening in the region.
> > > > > don't spend time to preach me, bozo. to me and to the supremacy, u r a
> > > > > homeless.
>
> > > > > On Aug 25, 10:35 pm, kangaroo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > What does Cambodians from the outside have anything to do with
> > > > > > Cambodia.
> > > > > > Your comment is an insult to the Cambodian intelligence. They are 
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > as stupid as you think.
> > > > > > The Cambodian people have the knowledge and power to do it. The only
> > > > > > thing that they lack is an honest leader who can put it together so
> > > > > > they can participate. Today, CPP has been doing it. That's why no
> > > > > > other parties have earned the real trust from the Cambodian people
> > > > > > yet.
> > > > > > Cambodia today is not like Cambodia thirty years ago.
> > > > > > Cambodian youth today is far more educated and live far modern as 
> > > > > > many
> > > > > > people from the outside think.
> > > > > > The notion of Cambodians from the outside to teach them is another
> > > > > > insult to their intelligence.
> > > > > > Remember! This kind of rhetorics fuel the division notion to destroy
> > > > > > Cambodia. Cambodian peasants felt this way for a very long time. 
> > > > > > Upper
> > > > > > class Cambodians always looked down to those poor people.That was 
> > > > > > why
> > > > > > they revenged when they were elevated to the upper class by the
> > > > > > KhmerRouge.
> > > > > > Here it is again. "Vietnamese is running Cambodia." is just another
> > > > > > insult to the Cambodian intelligence.
> > > > > > Can Cambodians not able to run their own country except those from 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > outside?
> > > > > > Cambodian people would never allowed that kind of notion to run 
> > > > > > their
> > > > > > lives.
> > > > > > My friend,
> > > > > > Don't think that you know alot because you live outside of Cambodia.
>
> > > > > > Now you don't believe that it is a culture of the Cambodian culture.
> > > > > > Sihanouk lead the country for a very long time in the 60s. Were
> > > > > > Vietnamese there too.
> > > > > > Lon Nol ran the country in the first half of the 70s. Were 
> > > > > > Vietnamese
> > > > > > there too?
> > > > > > Khmer Rouge destroyed the country in the second half of the 70s. 
> > > > > > Were
> > > > > > Vietnamese there too?
> > > > > > Now, Hun Sen lead the country for a while. Have Vitnamese been there
> > > > > > too?
> > > > > > The bad part of Cambodia is the fault of Vietnamese.
> > > > > > Are only good parts belonged to Cambodia?
>
> > > > > > On Aug 25, 9:08 am, เดช <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > the change cannot be within, it has to be from cambodian outside. 
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > shoud help the new ones to get a head in education.
> > > > > > > the new ones can be changed but no the ones are inside. the 
> > > > > > > generals
> > > > > > > never been in school with stars report to the vietnamese, and 
> > > > > > > they are
> > > > > > > the eyes and ears of the vietnamese, they are corrupted and their
> > > > > > > children are the same. the vietnamese promoted them to top and 
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > report to the vietnamese that's how it is. it is not cambodian
> > > > > > > culture, it is a cold war of the vietnamese to keep cambodia under
> > > > > > > develppment. get rid of the under develpped mind like chau bury 
> > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > speaks only fools to destroy the image of cambodia, cambodia can 
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > better.
>
> > > > > > > On Aug 25, 10:17 am, kangaroo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > My friend,
> > > > > > > > Corruption and impunity in Cambodia are not just being 
> > > > > > > > practiced by
> > > > > > > > these few people.
> > > > > > > > These things have been a part of the Cambodian culture. They 
> > > > > > > > practice
> > > > > > > > it religiously from the bottom to the top of the society. There 
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > classes. There are power. There are richness and poor.
> > > > > > > > These are elements of the Cambodian corruption and impunity.
> > > > > > > > The Cambodian society as the whole must change their culture if 
> > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > want to minimize corruption and eliminate impunity.
> > > > > > > > When are they going to do?
> > > > > > > > Probably never.
>
> > > > > > > > On Aug 25, 4:16 am, Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Hun Chea, a nephew of Cambodia's prime minster, was speeding 
> > > > > > > > > along a busy downtown street a few days ago when he ran down 
> > > > > > > > > a man on a motorbike.
> > > > > > > > > Phnom Penh's streets are teeming with motorbikes, hundreds of 
> > > > > > > > > them, criss-crossing busy traffic without seeming to look or 
> > > > > > > > > care where they are going. Collisions are inevitable. But 
> > > > > > > > > that's not the point of this story.
> > > > > > > > > Hun was tearing down the street at high speed when he hit the 
> > > > > > > > > biker, witnesses reported, and his car ripped off an arm and 
> > > > > > > > > a leg. The biker, Sam Sabo, was killed. Hun began to drive 
> > > > > > > > > off, but running over the motorbike had shredded a tire. He 
> > > > > > > > > had to pull over, so there he sat in his big black Cadillac 
> > > > > > > > > Escalade SUV.
> > > > > > > > > Now, listen to how the Phnom Penh Post newspaper described 
> > > > > > > > > the events that followed.
> > > > > > > > > "Numerous traffic police were seen avoiding the accident 
> > > > > > > > > scene, but armed military police arrived. They removed the 
> > > > > > > > > SUV's license plates and comforted Hun Chea" while Sam Sabo 
> > > > > > > > > lay bleeding to death in the street. A military policeman was 
> > > > > > > > > overheard telling Hun: "'Don't worry. It wasn't your mistake. 
> > > > > > > > > It was the motorbike driver's mistake.'" A few days later, 
> > > > > > > > > Hun gave the dead man's family $4,000 in hush money, the 
> > > > > > > > > paper reported.. Case closed.
> > > > > > > > > It's no secret that Cambodia is thoroughly corrupt. As an 
> > > > > > > > > indirect result, the rich and the powerful can commit, well, 
> > > > > > > > > murder and face few if any repercussions.
> > > > > > > > > A primary rule of foreign correspondence is to avoid applying 
> > > > > > > > > the values of your own country on the nation you are
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