A former child refugee from Cambodia, Kalyanee Mam has sought to raise 
awareness of refugee issues through her work as a lawyer, photographer and 
documentary maker. She and her family fled Cambodia in 1979, following the 
Vietnamese invasion that toppled Pol Pot's brutal Khmer Rouge regime. The 
fighting in Cambodia continued throughout the 1980s. After working as a lawyer 
in Iraq, Kalyanee decided to make a documentary on Iraqi refugees in Jordan, 
Syria and Egypt, which was completed in early August. She spoke recently with 
UNHCR Public Information Intern Morana Song. Excerpts from the interview: How 
did you come to the United States? When the war ended in 1979, my family fled 
to Thailand where we lived in a refugee camp for two years. In 1981 we were 
resettled to the US; to Houston, Texas. I was four years old at the time. Being 
welcomed to the US as a refugee was a wonderful experience for my family, and 
in making this film I hope to use my good fortune
 to highlight the situation of other refugees. How would you describe your role 
in raising awareness of refugee issues? I've always felt connected to refugee 
issues because of my own experience. I'd like to bring that connection to 
others because I know that not everyone has had the opportunity to meet Iraqi 
refugees. If you ask me what my role is, it is really to better understand what 
happened to these refugees and to bring that understanding back to the United 
States. Can you describe your work as a lawyer in Iraq? I was there for six 
months. I worked for the government of Iraq, helping them to reform their 
commercial laws. While I was there, many of my Iraqi friends started telling me 
stories of their lives during the Saddam Hussein regime, during the sanctions, 
and after the US occupation. I was so intrigued by their stories that I would 
record them at night in my room. Please tell us about the documentary, "Between 
Earth and Sky" The documentary
 was inspired by one particular Iraqi woman whom I filmed in Jordan. She told 
me that she and her family couldn't touch the ground or reach the sky because 
they were stuck in between, like between borders. So that's how the title came 
about. Many Iraqis feel the same way. They don't feel that they have any 
long-term solutions. The documentary features three stories. The first is about 
an artist family in Jordan. I lived with them maybe a month, mostly getting to 
know them and gaining their trust. Iraq is a country rich in history, art and 
culture and the family is really at the centre of that richness. In the second 
story, I focused on two brothers who are separated from each other. One is 
living in Syria and the other one is living in Egypt. The third story is about 
a 16-year-old refugee artist living in Egypt. What do you want to tell the 
world through "Between Earth and Sky"? It's the Iraqis speaking for themselves, 
and my role is to connect people to
 them. I really want to show how amazing and human they are. In the media you 
only see bodies and numbers; you never get to see the human being, or the 
spirit, or the soul of Iraqis. I want to make the point that resettlement is 
not the answer for everyone because millions of Iraqis need more permanent and 
durable solutions. A lot of Iraqis in Syria are not in school or working. And 
in Jordan they don't have residency, and without residency you can't work. More 
resources have to be provided to UNHCR and other organizations that are helping 
Iraqi refugees. There need to be more programmes that provide job training and 
education. The security situation in Iraq also needs to improve so Iraqis can 
return to their country. You talk of connecting to other people. What role does 
that play in your work? I feel more whole as a person when I find someone who 
can understand me, or I can understand them. The reason why we have so many 
problems is because we don't
 tolerate others. It will keep repeating in history if we don't understand each 
other and connect to each other. I'd like to continue to document stories of 
refugees, share my own experience with others and connect with people in that 
personal way.


      
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