CANT BELIEVE YOU GUYS STILL DEBATING OVER THIS CRAP! ITS LIKE OLD NEWS NOW! GOTTA GET OVER IT! THAI, CAMBODIA, VIETNAM ETC..THEY ALL PROBABLY GONNA GET RULED BY ONE RICH COUNTRY OR RELIGION! SO WHATS THE DIFFERENCE? MY EMAIL IS SPAMMED WITH ALL OF THIS! AND CAMDISC WONT ALLOW ME TO UNSUBSCRIBE OR ELSE I WOULD! TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE! CAMBODIA WOULD NEVER GIVE UP THEIR LAND TO THAI! FULL STOP! EVEN IF IT KILLS ALL OF KHMER PEOPLE! I DONT THINK KHMER PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF DEATH!
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:54:55 -0700 > Subject: Re: Thailand protest Cambodia over troop intrusion > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [email protected] > > > > > On Sep 17, 10:57 pm, rattanakiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Virak; > > I know many cambodian former refugee would like to disagree that Thailand > > treated Cambodians better than Cambodia now...unless you think marching > > down Phnom Dangkek, or living in concentration camps is Club Med, or eating > > at Hooter with Monsieur Henri > > If you really look back at the Cambodian history and the current > situation in the Cambodian society, one can come to a conclusion that > Cambodians are still fighting each other for power so they can corrupt > and to practice the culture of impunity over no one but their own > people in their own nation. > > Cambodian people have been doing this for a very long time from one > generation to another. > Cambodians also have been searching ways to tacle their problems by > clinging to the same rhetorics. > > The Cambodian culture cannot be changed. KhmerRouge tried to do it. > Yet, they could not succeed. Instead, they almost destroyed it to > ground zero. > > Now, they are back to the same rhetorics. They corrupt and practice > the culture of impunity.What else is new? > > > In comparison, Thailand has been living in peace under their monarchy > lead. They brought their society to a higher standard. They continue > to make it better. Hence, there is no comparison between Cambodia and > Thailand. > > So Cambodia would be better when they join Thailand as one nation. > > > > The game of cat and mouse of the Thai border guards with Khmer is larger > > than you and I could understand. The Thai military whose tie to the Thai > > political establishment, the monarchy, is trying to bait Cambodia into mini > > crisis to discredit the PPP party government of former PM Thaksin. I give > > Hun Sen credit for taking at most care to deal it firmly and not > > unwittingly become a tool for the anti government factions and the > > military. The Thai has no legal ground to claim those temples and lands in > > world court. That is why they try to bait cambodia into a fight. Above > > all, it has nothing with the Paris Agreement, it has a lot to do with Siam > > French Treaties that the Thai want to resin and the potential offshore oil > > and gas deposit. > > > It's not a game. Thailand really wants that territory to be their > land. Thailand wants Angkor to be theirs as well. > Stupidity from the Cambodian side will not discourage those nation to > pursue that dream. Actually, they are encouraging through their own > act of self destruction. Thailand will take that part of the country. > It's not a game. > > > > > The reason Hun Sen does not want to have the UN get involved yet is because > > the UN security council, lining up with Thai friendly veto power countries > > like the US, UK. Hun Sen also does not want the useless ASEAN to lose > > face if he goes over the ASEAN head directly to the UN. > > Who is Hun Sen and his government? > Aren't they Cambodians? > If they are, why are they so stupid according to your view? > > > > It is sad that oppositions do not have foreign policy experts, surrounding > > themselves only with ignorant nationalist yes-man. Just listen the US, > > Condi Rice, and yesterday, Negapornte also said the US wants Cambodia and > > Thai to have bilateral talk to resolve the problems. ASEAN is powerless to > > solve Thai-Cambodian issues because it was not set up to do that--solve > > conflicts. Only UN will do but Cambodia has to try bilateral talk with > > Thailand first as the US [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Running Cambodia the way Hun Sen > > and his CPP team are doing now, Cambodian people are better off somewhere > > else including Thailand. If the borders are open and Thailand allows > > Cambodians to migrate in, you will see the influx of Cambodians leaving > > Cambodia to reside in Thailand. The living standard is far better in > > Thailand than in many places of Cambodia. Many Cambodians are leaving > > Cambodia to find better job in Thailand, Korea, Taiwan and other countries > > just to be their slave. Millions Khmer in Thailand are being treated better > > by Thai government. Meanwhile, Cambodian government is treating its own > > citizens like animal. > > > > The American government and the American people have no vital interest > in that region at this time. > So their comment is nothing but the promote peaceful solution. > Don't expect America to help anyone there anytime soon. > > > > > > > > > Thailand, however, will not take over the entire Cambodia at this time. > > They will continue to harass Cambodia to chip off its territory, the way > > Vietnam has done to Cambodia. Cambodia will have a hard time explaining to > > the UN about its continuous violations of the 1991 Paris Peace Agreement. > > If Cambodia and Vietnam do not respect the 1991 Paris Peace Agreement, why > > should Thailand respect any agreements at all? This explains why Hun Sen > > hesitates to get the UN involved. Plus, what kind of businesses have Hun > > Sen and Thaksin done in Cambodia? > > > > It is impossible for Thailand to take over Cambodia at this time. No > one has ever suggest that. > However, the people of Cambodia can. They can become a part of great > nation called the kingdom of Thailand. > > > > > > > > > Cambodia needs a better government, but will Vietnam allow? Will Cambodians > > continue to be gutless forever? > > > > Cambodia needs a better culture, not new different same government. > Cambodian government officals are nothing but thugs who try to extort > their own people in many ways they can. > It's the way they live in Cambodia. > It's their own culture. > They corrupt and to practice the culture of impunity. > They do it from all Cambodian history. > They use power to practice this culture. > That's their prestige. > They even kill their own people for power. > They even destroy their own nation for power. > That's their goal. > > > > > > > > > Virak > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/16/2008 6:27:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]: > > > > > > What the current leaders and their cronies would do is to allow Thai > > to take over Cambodia. > > It will end the suffering created by their own people in their own > > society. > > On Sep 16, 11:35 am, Prak Em<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > _________________________________________________________________ Net yourself a bargain. Find great deals on eBay. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%3Fid%3D10&_t=763807330&_r=hotmailTAGLINES&_m=EXT --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. 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