1/2 truth is not the whole truth it's a distortion of facts . Beware of Vietnamese communists agents at this forum : Ông-thu N ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).. As Vietnamese communists agent, this article is just a propaganda. This individual has twisted it , and distorted it, in an attempt to show that the American are bad but he remains silent on the Vietnamese invasion and occupation of Cambodia from 1979-2008, condemned by 116 UN member countries through 10 UN resolutions. Just examine and study these two culture in order to understand the Vietnamese mentality and the motive of this Vietnamese agent. The Vietnamese culture is based on lies and these lies are to be found in the Chinese culture as well. Because the Vietnamese culture is born from the Chinese culture through over 1000 years Chinese rule over the Vietnamese people. Just look to these events. North Vietnam, however, has not respected that neutrality. 1940-1969 Cambodia -- a small country of seven million people. -- has been a neutral nation since the Geneva Agreement of 1954, an agreement, incidentally, which was signed by the government of North Vietnam. American policy since then has been to scrupulously respect the neutrality of the Cambodian people. We have maintained a skeleton diplomatic mission of fewer than 15 in Cambodia’s capital, and that only since last August. For the previous four years, from 1965 to 1969, we did not have any diplomatic mission whatever in Cambodia, and for the past five years we have provided no military assistance whatever and no economic assistance to Cambodia. North Vietnam, however, has not respected that neutrality. For the past five years, as indicated on this map, that you see here, North Vietnam has occupied military sanctuaries all along the Cambodian frontier with South Vietnam. Some of these extend up to 20 miles into Cambodia. The sanctuaries are in red, and as you note, they are on both sides of the border. They are used for hit-and-run attacks on American and South Vietnamese forces in South Vietnam. These Communist-occupied territories contain major base camps, training sites, logistics facilities, weapons and ammunition factories, airstrips, and prisoner of war compounds. And for five years neither the United States nor South Vietnam has moved against these enemy sanctuaries because we did not wish to violate the territory of a neutral nation. Vietnam, has not respected the UN CHARTER, the Paris Peace agreement with the US . A. VIETNAM INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF CAMBODIA 1978-2008. December 25, 1978 Invasion of Cambodia. Some 100,000 Vietnamese with 20,000 KUFNS troops, under the direction of Gen. Van Tien Dung, launch an invasion of Cambodia. B.. CHINESE INVASION OF VIETNAM (SHORT) Feb.. 17, 1979 "Teaching a lesson". Some 170,000 Chinese troops with 700 warplanes, and 250-300 tanks launched an invasion of Vietnam to punish it for invading of Cambodia. THE WORDS OF THE VIETNAMESE ARE PURE LIES : Study these words made by by PHAM VAN DONG, the Prime Minister of North Vietnam, his public statement, his promises made to Prince Sihanouk and his orders to launch an invasion of Cambodia. It reflects the Vietnamese culture of lies. It reflects also the Vietnamese race and national character based on dishonesty ,deception , and pure lies. . VIETNAM WORDS OF LIES : June 8, 1967 North VN PM Pham Van Dong makes a declaration of recognizing Cambodian independence, neutrality, sovereignty and territorial integrity. The declaration makes in response to Prince Sihanouk’s appeal for the recognition and respect of Cambodia’s territorial integrity.
VIETNAM CRIMES AGAINST CAMBODIA : VIETNAM INVASION OF CAMBODIA 1978. Dec. 25, 1978 PM Pham Van Dong launched an invasion of Cambodia. Some 100,000 Vietnamese with 20,000 KUFNS troops, under the direction of Gen.Van Tien Dung, launch an invasion of Cambodia. VIETNAM OCCUPATION OF CAMBODIA : Under Vietnam occupation of Cambodia in 10 years 1979-1989 : Under Le Duc Tho rule alone 1979-1989 an estimate 460 000 innocent Cambodian had died through TORTURE, BURIED ALIVE, SIMPLE EXECUTION, foced labor,famine ,stravation, malnutrition and sponsor starvation by the CPP regime recorded by Amnestry international and others. IT CONFIRMS BY THIS BOOK : on the behavior and character of a Vietnamese,as described in this : BOOK " GIAI PHONG " by T Terzani. It describes a Vietnamese as THIEF, A LIAR, A KILLER, A DECEIVER , a sleeper ...... And this proof shows how 116 UN member countries condemned the Vietnamese leaders as liars. VIETNAM INVASION & OCCUPATION OF CAMBODIA IS CONDEMNED: Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia. Again Vietnam, has not respected the 10 UN resolutions calling Vietnam to cease her occupation of Cambodia and remove all her troops from the country. America too, she sees the Vietnamese leaders as liars expressed in this statement made by the US President Reagan. US president Reagan calls Vietnam to restore Cambodia Independence . President Reagan's address to the 43d Session of the United Nations General Assembly in New York, New York,September 26, 1988. "Mr. Secretary-General, there are new hopes for Cambodia, a nation whose freedom and independence we seek just as avidly as we sought the freedom and independence of Afghanistan. We urge the rapid removal of all Vietnamese troops ...." Are you proud to be a Vietnamese communist agent & liar vis a vis a Cambodian and the Cambodian people ? --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 Khmer deaths! To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 10:06 PM If you're real Khmer, not Khmer with US citizenship you shold know the fact that Americans & John McCain did kill 600000 Khmers in 1969! --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 Khmer deaths! To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 1:58 PM Why ? --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 Khmer deaths! To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 2:57 AM Read this book: Lying for Empire How to Commit War Crimes With A Straight Face by David Model Especially page 140. --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 Khmer deaths! To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 1:15 PM I that's pure propaganda from your imagination ? "' 1969, President Richard Nixon and his National Security Advisor, Henry A... Kissinger, unleashed B-52 carpet bombing for over fourteen months against a people who still tilled the soil with water buffalo. The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 deaths. The American bombing of Cambodia was a closely guarded secret primarily because the U.S. was not at war with Cambodia ." ? What is the name of the book or document and page number ? --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 Khmer deaths! To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], "CAMBODIAN VETERANS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 2:04 AM The United States, apprehensive about Southeast Asia becoming part of the Soviet sphere of influence, were willing to commit whatever resources were needed to incorporate it into the American Empire. American military leaders believed that Cambodian territory was providing a transportation route from North to South Vietnam and a haven where North Vietnam established its headquarters. Despite the fact that in the 1960s and early 1970s, Cambodia was safely in the American camp, its use by North Vietnam was becoming a problem. In 1969, President Richard Nixon and his National Security Advisor, Henry A... Kissinger, unleashed B-52 carpet bombing for over fourteen months against a people who still tilled the soil with water buffalo. The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 deaths. The American bombing of Cambodia was a closely guarded secret primarily because the U.S. was not at war with Cambodia . Not only did Nixon and Kissinger not seek the necessary approval from Congress to bomb Cambodia , they tried to conceal the bombing not only from the American public but Congress as well. Nixon and Kissinger believed that these hideous lies were imperative to hold on to South Vietnam as part of the American Empire.. Following the bombing, many peasants were so outraged at the United States and their puppet leader in Cambodia that they chose to join the Khmer Rouge, a marginal revolutionary communist group whose ranks swelled to a major force. After taking power, the Khmer Rouge unleashed a reign of terror killing over one million people. --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 Khmer deaths! To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 12:55 PM could you quote the sentence from the page for us to read ? We are not to know like you . --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 Khmer deaths! To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 1:51 AM Page 140 in this book! --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 Khmer deaths! To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 12:46 PM Why ? Can you show us the page number on 600,000 Khmer deaths --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 Khmer deaths! To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 1:43 AM Read this book: Lying for Empire How to Commit War Crimes With A Straight Face by David Model --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 Khmer deaths! To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 12:40 PM WHAT LINE FROM THE BELOW TEXT DOES IT SHOW 600,000 Khmer deaths? i CANNOT FIND IT --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 Khmer deaths! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 1:23 AM The bombing began on the night of 18 March, 1969 with a raid by 60 B-52 Stratofortress bombers, based at Andersen Air Force Base, Guam. The target was Base Area 353, the supposed location of COSVN in the Fishhook. Although the aircrews were briefed that their mission was to take place in the South Vietnam , 48 of the bombers were diverted across the Cambodian border and dropped 2,400 tons of bombs. The mission was designated Breakfast, after the morning Pentagon planning session at which it was devised. Breakfast was so successful that General Abrams provided a list of 15 more known Base Areas for targeting. During the next 14 months the operation continued. The five remaining missions that made up the operation and their targets were: Lunch (Base Area 609), Snack (Base Area 351), Dinner (Base Area 352), Supper (Base Area 740), and Dessert (Base Area 350). SAC flew 3,800 B-52 sorties against these targets, and dropped 108,823 tons of ordnance during the missions. Due to the continued reference to gastronomic situations in the codenames, the entire series of missions was referred to as Operation Menu. Assessment of bomb damage to the targets was difficult to obtain, due to the covert nature of the operation. Instead of utilizing Air Force aircraft for the missions, SOG forward air controllers were tasked with obtaining intelligence on target damage. Nixon and Kissinger went to great lengths to keep the missions secret. The expansion of the American effort into "neutral" Cambodia was sure to cause serious debate in Congress, negative criticism in the media, and were sure to spark anti-war protests on American college campuses. In order to prevent this, an elaborate dual reporting system covering the missions had been formulated during the Brussels meeting between Nixon, Haig, and Colonel Sitton. First, the number of individuals who had complete knowledge of the operation was kept to a bare minimum.. All communications concerning the missions was split along two paths - one route was overt, ordering typical B-52 missions that were to take place within South Vietnam near the Cambodian border - the second route was covert, utilizing back-channel messages between commanders ordering the classified missions. For example: General Abrams would request a Menu strike. His request went to Admiral John McCain, the Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Command (CINCPAC), in Honolulu . McCain forwarded it to the Joint Chiefs in Washington, who, after reviewing it, passed it on to Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird (who might consult with the president). The Joint Chiefs then passed the command for the strike to General Bruce K. Holloway, Commander of SAC, who then notified Lieutenant General Alvin C. Gillem, Commander of the 3rd Air Division on Guam . During this time Air Force Major Hal Knight was supervising an MSQ-77 Combat Skyspot radar site at Bien Hoa Air Base, RVN. "Skyspot" was a ground directed bombing system which directed B-52 strikes to targets in Vietnam . Each day a courier plane would arrive from SAC's Advanced Echelon Office at Tan Son Nhut Air Base near Saigon ... Knight was given a revised list of target coordinates for the next day's missions. That evening, the coordinates were fed into Olivetti Programma 101 computers and then relayed to the aircraft as they came on station. Only the pilots and navigators of the aircraft (who had been personally briefed by General Gillem and sworn to secrecy) knew of the true location of the targets. The bombers then flew on to their targets and delivered their payloads. After the air strikes, Knight gathered the mission paperwork, computer tapes etc, destroying them in an incinerator. He then called a special phone number in Saigon and reported that "The ball game is over." The aircrews filled out routine reports of hours flown, fuel burned, and ordnance dropped. This dual system maintained secrecy and provided Air Force logistics and personnel administrators with information that they needed to replace air crews or aircraft and replenish stocks of fuel and munitions. Although Sihanouk was not informed by the U.S. about the operation, he did remain quiet about the illegal bombing of his country. His silent acquiescence may have been prompted by a desire to see PAVN/NLF forces out of Cambodia , since he himself was precluded from pressing them too hard. After the event, it was claimed by Nixon and Kissinger that Sihanouk had given his tacit approval for the raids, but this claim has since been disproved. On 9 May 1969, an inaccurate article by military reporter William Beecher describing the bombing was run in the New York Times. Beecher claimed that an unnamed source within the administration had provided the information. Nixon was furious when he heard the news and ordered Dr. Kissinger to obtain the assistance of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover and discover the source of the leak. Hoover suspected Kissinger's own NSC aide, Mortin Halperin, of the deed and so informed Kissinger. Halperin's phone was then illegally tapped for 21 months. This was the first in a series of illegal surveillance activities authorized by Nixon in the name of national security. The administration was relieved when no other significant press reports concerning the operation appeared. By the summer, five members of the United States Congress had been informed of the operation. They were: Senators John C. Stennis (MS) and Richard B. Russell, Jr. (GA) and Representatives Lucius Mendel Rivers (SC), Gerald R.. Ford (MI), and Leslie C. Arends (IL). Arends and Ford were leaders of the Republican minority and the other three were Democrats on either the Armed Services or Appropriations committees. For those in Washington who were cognizant of the Menu raids, the silence of one participant came as a surprise. The Hanoi government made no protest concerning the bombings. It neither denounced the raids for propaganda purposes, nor, according to Dr. Kissinger, did its negotiators "raise the matter during formal or secret negotiations..........." North Vietnam had no wish to either void Cambodia 's neutrality or to acknowledge the presence of their forces there. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
