Hi Lenny, It was rather dumb if the court had settled the case without specifically defining the surrounding areas of the Temple. The Thai government is also stupid to claim for something that doesn't belong to Thai. It would be better for the Thai to cooperate with Cambodian so that they can help Thai people living in the areas of Preah Vihear. But, that the main reasons for all of this are more political than logical. You are right Cambodia should have done a better job in building road infrastructures to reach the many temples in Cambodia, but I guess its top priorities were to build Villas, Casinos, Hotel and skyscrapers in Phnom Penh. For the amount of money that Cambodia makes from Angkor, the road to Preah Vihear was doable. But, it's never too late to build... Fighting should be the last resources. No more killings. ============= In a message dated 7/9/2009 6:37:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
I'm confused. Was the land surrounding Preah Vihear not officially given to Cambodia in 1962 as I read on another member of Camdisc's reply? Why hasn't the CPP built a high quality road /entrance for tourists ? Why did they wait so long to complete the road from Siem Reap to Anlong Veng? What is the status of the road from Anlong Veng to Preah Vihear temple? That road would also be of grat value to the small villages along the way. The CPP make foolish stupid mistakes. That temple should of been commercialized years ago. By relying on the Thai's initiative to set up and use their roads Cambodia allowed themselves to be DEPENDANT on the Thai's. Why would the CPP allow another country to dictate how many tourists can visit a Cambodian temple ? Us foreigners have to pay twice remember from the Thai side. Hun Sen is a soldier, not a public adminstrator and should stick to wars. Regards, Lenny > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 23:53:11 -0700 > Subject: Re: Cambodia marks anniversary of temple's world heritage listing > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > There are many things to clarify to the Cambodian people, but SRP has > no ability to voice their concerns to reach Cambodian people at all > because of mass media has been monopolized by the CPP to fool > Cambodian people. > > While Angkor Wat, the icon of the nation has been listed by UNESCO, > why the government in that time didn't sponsor or persuade through > mass media to call for Cambodian nationalism and celebration? > > What is the expecting outcome from nationalism celebration of this > Preah Vihear? It makes Cambodians feel good or it will become ultra > racial nationalism towards Thai people? Or it is just showing Sok An's > work to raise himself up higher than others inside the CPP, his key > contenders? > > How about the good intention to deal with Thailand? Any good > mechanisms being raised now? Or just declared war again and again by > Hun Sen, and continue to celebrate nationalism until Thai embassy will > be burned again? > > This nationalism celebration is sponsored by the government - > government put high expectation to legitimize their power regardless > that legitimization will skip the Cambodian interests. > > So on and on to say... > > KY > > On Jul 8, 6:50 am, [email protected] wrote: > > Cambodia needs to address its border’s issues with every neighboring > > country, especially with Vietnam and Thailand because it has been reported that > > these countries continue to encroach Cambodian territory. > > Recently, Thailand has had its national political problems, gradually more > > from the time after Mr. Thaksin was ousted. The current administration > > needs to do something to satisfy Thai Voters. Campaign promises of the current > > Thai’s ruling party regarding Preah Vihear must be handled properly. > > Good relationship between Ex-PM Thaksin and Premier Hun Sen is a thorn > > that troubles current Thai Prime Minister. He is looking for more reasons to > > divert Thais people from its internal problems. Border tensions between the > > two countries have helped both political parties—current ruling party of > > Cambodia and of Thailand. > > Unfortunately, Cambodia/Vietnam border’s issues have been forgotten and > > the CPP is not going to stir up the problems with the Vietnamese. First, if > > it does, Cambodia cannot handle two enemies at the same time; secondly, the > > CPP will lose the friendship protection from Vietnamese incase it has to > > battle the Thai forces. However, the border problems with Thailand, should > > give the Cambodian government a good reason to also settle border's problems > > with Vietnam correctly. > > The opposition parties are stuck. They cannot make much noises against the > > CPP in any case at this time. Any move will be seen as if they are trying > > to help Cambodia’s “enemies.” Every attempt to discredit Hun Sen needs to > > be done carefully. > > Premier Hun Sen is able to use Preah Vihear issues to his advantage. So is > > the Thai Premier. > > ========================== > > > > In a message dated 7/8/2009 1:17:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > _Cambodia marks anniversary of temple's world heritage listing_ > > (http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2009/07/cambodia-marks-anni... > > s.html) > > > > Comment: Thinking outside the box, we absolutely agree that Preah Vihear > > must belong to Cambodia, Cambodia territory land has to be protected, > > Cambodian people have to celebrate any meaningful successes regarding pride and > > heritage of Cambodian nation. But thinking inside the box would offer us > > different taste. In reality, Preah Vihear will be officially listed by UNESCO > > or not, this ancient ruin is legally belonging to Cambodia. The decision of > > the World Court ruled in 1962 legally and internationally claimed the > > legal ownership of Cambodia over Preah Vihear temple. This is one of the > > prolific legacies of King Norodom Sihanouk. But what value and pride in this time > > for Cambodians to celebrate Preah Vihear again with this government's > > event organizing to diffuse such a doubtful nationalism? Is it just a plan > > designed by Sok An or CPP government to mobilize nationalism for the benefit > > of CPP? It is truly showing us that this time, nationalism has been > > tremendously influenced by the coverage of biased mass media and sponsored by the > > government. In reality, we don't know much on whow are relevant plans and > > mechanisms that government has taken steps to handle with the scheme of Preah > > Vihear temple? More than this, this Preah Vihear scheme has made Cambodian > > people forget all the controversial border issues with Vietnam. Cambodian > > people who are living along the border with Vietnam have complained a lot > > about their farms and lands have been gradually encroached by Vietnam, but > > TV channels or radios dare not cover about those complains. Local authority > > has always used their accuses to close those complains. This time is like a > > popular Khmer proverb says "while Thailand is crazily trying to take the > > stone from Cambodia, Vietnam is happily taking Cambodia land and enforcing > > its hegemonic authority over Cambodia". In term of stone, Angkor Wat is > > controlled by Vietnamese company and guarded by Vietnamese policemen. In term > > of land, Vietnamese people are allowing to resettle and plant their houses > > in every spot of Cambodian soil. > > > > Cambodian buddhist monks pray and hold a picture of the Preah Vihear temple > > > > Cambodian students mark the 1st Anniversary of the northern Preah Vihear > > temple's world heritage listing > > PHNOM PENH (AFP) — Cambodians on Tuesday noisily celebrated the first > > anniversary of the UN's world heritage listing of an ancient temple which has > > stoked nationalist tensions with neighbouring Thailand. > > > > Posters of the 11th century Preah Vihear temple were plastered in pagodas, > > schools and prominent locations around the capital Phnom Penh while > > celebrators screamed, "Long Live Preah Vihear temple as a World Heritage Site!" > > "As Cambodian people, we are very proud of Preah Vihear temple. We must > > celebrate this day, it is historic for us," Phnom Penh governor Kep Chuktema > > said after a traditional dance ceremony at a pagoda in front of 1,000 > > people. > > Waving colourful Cambodian flags, Buddhist monks, nuns, students and > > teachers gathered at pagodas and schools nationwide and promptly beat drums and > > rang bells at 11:00 am (0400 GMT) to herald the listing, officials said. > > "I am very happy and proud of Preah Vihear temple. The temple belongs to > > Cambodia. Thailand has no right to claim it," said student Hang Dalune as at > > another event as hundreds of people sang and danced to nationalist songs, > > waving Cambodian flags. > > Soldiers, villagers, monks and officials at Preah Vihear also celebrated > > the listing despite a standoff nearby between Cambodian and Thai troops, > > Cambodian commanders said. > > The neighbouring countries have been at loggerheads over the land around > > the Preah Vihear temple for decades, but tensions spilled over into violence > > last July when the temple was granted UN World Heritage status. > > Although the World Court ruled in 1962 that it belonged to Cambodia, the > > most accessible entrance to the ancient Khmer temple with its crumbling stone > > staircases and elegant carvings is from northeastern Thailand. > > Thousands of people were also expected to gather in Phnom Penh's Olympic > > Stadium Tuesday evening for an anniversary ceremony complete with a fireworks > > display, official speeches and patriotic songs. > > Relations between Thailand and Cambodia worsened last month when Bangkok > > announced it would ask UNESCO to reconsider its decision to list Preah Vihear > > as a world heritage site, as the surrounding land is still in dispute. > > > > -- > > Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless > > strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! > > _http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com_ > > (http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/) > > > > **************Popular laptop deals plus free shipping! > > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221917659x1201411421/aol?red... > > plex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D2) > **************Dell Studio XPS Desktop: Save up to $400 - Limited Time Offer (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222466512x1201463496/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D3) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
