Lenny,

On a Cambodian satellite TV CTN, it shows the road to Preah Vihear is
being built. Last time I saw someone posted in this forum about Hun
Sen talking to the public that Cambodia alone is no match for
Thailand. He was talking about not much forest in Cambodia to support
guerilla warfare. So it seems he is already chicken out, it must be
his old age. I disagree with him.

A war with Thailand isn’t a bad idea. There aren’t many
infrastructures in Cambodia to be damaged from a war. Many Khmer still
remembered freshly how Thailand treated them when they escaped to the
border for help.

Thailand is facing big problems from the Muslims when they annexed two
provinces from Malaysia long ago. These two provinces are causing
Thailand weaker in term of economics and military. A majority of
people in Surin of Thailand are Khmer would rise up once a war is
broke out. A united between Khmer and Khmer Surin can free the Khmer
Krom and make Kampuchea Krom and Surin part of Cambodia again which
will then become the Greater Kampuchea.


On Jul 9, 5:36 pm, Len Graceffo <[email protected]> wrote:
>  I'm confused. Was the land surrounding Preah Vihear not officially given to 
> Cambodia in 1962 as I read on another member of Camdisc's reply? Why hasn't 
> the CPP built a high quality road /entrance for tourists ? Why did they wait 
> so long to complete the road from Siem Reap to Anlong Veng? What is the 
> status of the road from Anlong Veng to Preah Vihear temple? That road would 
> also be of grat value to the small villages along the way. The CPP make 
> foolish stupid mistakes. That temple should of been commercialized years ago. 
> By relying on the Thai's initiative to set up and use their roads Cambodia 
> allowed themselves to be DEPENDANT on the Thai's. Why would the CPP allow 
> another country to dictate how many tourists can visit a Cambodian temple ? 
> Us foreigners have to pay twice remember from the Thai side. Hun Sen is a 
> soldier, not a public adminstrator and should stick to wars. Regards, Lenny
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 23:53:11 -0700
> > Subject: Re: Cambodia marks anniversary of temple's world heritage listing
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
>
> > There are many things to clarify to the Cambodian people, but SRP has
> > no ability to voice their concerns to reach Cambodian people at all
> > because of mass media has been monopolized by the CPP to fool
> > Cambodian people.
>
> > While Angkor Wat, the icon of the nation has been listed by UNESCO,
> > why the government in that time didn't sponsor or persuade through
> > mass media to call for Cambodian nationalism and celebration?
>
> > What is the expecting outcome from nationalism celebration of this
> > Preah Vihear? It makes Cambodians feel good or it will become ultra
> > racial nationalism towards Thai people? Or it is just showing Sok An's
> > work to raise himself up higher than others inside the CPP, his key
> > contenders?
>
> > How about the good intention to deal with Thailand? Any good
> > mechanisms being raised now? Or just declared war again and again by
> > Hun Sen, and continue to celebrate nationalism until Thai embassy will
> > be burned again?
>
> > This nationalism celebration is sponsored by the government -
> > government put high expectation to legitimize their power regardless
> > that legitimization will skip the Cambodian interests.
>
> > So on and on to say...
>
> > KY
>
> > On Jul 8, 6:50 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > > Cambodia  needs to address its border’s issues with every neighboring
> > > country, especially  with Vietnam and Thailand because it has been 
> > > reported that
> > > these countries  continue to encroach Cambodian territory.
> > > Recently,  Thailand has had its national political problems, gradually 
> > > more
> > > from the time  after Mr. Thaksin was ousted. The current administration
> > > needs to do something  to satisfy Thai Voters. Campaign promises of the 
> > > current
> > > Thai’s ruling party  regarding Preah Vihear must be handled properly.
> > > Good  relationship between Ex-PM Thaksin and Premier Hun Sen is a thorn
> > > that troubles  current Thai Prime Minister. He is looking for more 
> > > reasons to
> > > divert Thais  people from its internal problems. Border tensions between 
> > > the
> > > two countries  have helped both political parties—current ruling party of
> > > Cambodia and of  Thailand.
> > > Unfortunately,  Cambodia/Vietnam border’s issues have been forgotten and
> > > the CPP is not going to  stir up the problems with the Vietnamese. First, 
> > > if
> > > it does, Cambodia cannot  handle two enemies at the same time; secondly, 
> > > the
> > > CPP will lose the friendship  protection from Vietnamese incase it has to
> > > battle the Thai  forces. However, the border problems with Thailand, 
> > > should
> > > give the  Cambodian government a good reason to also settle border's 
> > > problems
> > > with  Vietnam correctly.
> > > The opposition parties are stuck. They cannot  make much noises against 
> > > the
> > > CPP in any case at this time. Any move will be seen  as if they are trying
> > > to help Cambodia’s “enemies.” Every attempt to discredit  Hun Sen needs to
> > > be done carefully.
> > > Premier  Hun Sen is able to use Preah Vihear issues to his advantage. So 
> > > is
> > > the Thai  Premier.
> > > ==========================
>
> > > In a message dated 7/8/2009 1:17:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>
> > > [email protected] writes:
>
> > > _Cambodia  marks anniversary of temple's world heritage listing_
> > > (http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2009/07/cambodia-marks-anni...
> > > s.html)
>
> > > Comment: Thinking outside  the box, we absolutely agree that Preah Vihear
> > > must belong to Cambodia,  Cambodia territory land has to be protected,
> > > Cambodian people have to  celebrate any meaningful successes regarding 
> > > pride and
> > > heritage of Cambodian  nation. But thinking inside the box would offer us
> > > different taste. In  reality, Preah Vihear will be officially listed by 
> > > UNESCO
> > > or not, this  ancient ruin is legally belonging to Cambodia. The decision 
> > > of
> > > the World  Court ruled in 1962 legally and internationally claimed the
> > > legal ownership  of Cambodia over Preah Vihear temple. This is one of the
> > > prolific legacies  of King Norodom Sihanouk. But what value and pride in 
> > > this time
> > > for  Cambodians to celebrate Preah Vihear again with this government's
> > > event  organizing to diffuse such a doubtful nationalism? Is it just a 
> > > plan
> > > designed by Sok An or CPP government to mobilize nationalism for the 
> > > benefit
> > > of CPP? It is truly showing us that this time, nationalism has been
> > > tremendously influenced by the coverage of biased mass media and 
> > > sponsored  by the
> > > government. In reality, we don't know much on whow are relevant plans  and
> > > mechanisms that government has taken steps to handle with the scheme of  
> > > Preah
> > > Vihear temple? More than this, this Preah Vihear scheme has made  
> > > Cambodian
> > > people forget all the controversial border issues with Vietnam.  Cambodian
> > > people who are living along the border with Vietnam have  complained a lot
> > > about their farms and lands have been gradually encroached  by Vietnam, 
> > > but
> > > TV channels or radios dare not cover about those complains.  Local 
> > > authority
> > > has always used their accuses to close those complains. This  time is 
> > > like a
> > > popular Khmer proverb says "while Thailand is crazily trying  to take the
> > > stone from Cambodia, Vietnam is happily taking Cambodia land and  
> > > enforcing
> > > its hegemonic authority over Cambodia". In term of stone, Angkor  Wat is
> > > controlled by Vietnamese company and guarded by Vietnamese policemen.  In 
> > > term
> > > of land, Vietnamese people are allowing to resettle and plant their  
> > > houses
> > > in every spot of Cambodian soil.
>
> > > Cambodian buddhist monks pray and hold a picture of the Preah Vihear  
> > > temple
>
> > > Cambodian students mark the 1st Anniversary of the northern Preah Vihear
> > > temple's world heritage listing
> > > PHNOM PENH (AFP) — Cambodians on Tuesday noisily celebrated the first
> > > anniversary of the UN's world heritage listing of an ancient temple which 
> > > has
> > > stoked nationalist tensions with neighbouring Thailand.
>
> > > Posters of the  11th century Preah Vihear temple were plastered in 
> > > pagodas,
> > > schools and  prominent locations around the capital Phnom Penh while
> > > celebrators screamed,  "Long Live Preah Vihear temple as a World Heritage 
> > > Site!"
> > > "As Cambodian people, we are very proud of Preah Vihear temple. We must
> > > celebrate this day, it is historic for us," Phnom Penh governor Kep 
> > > Chuktema
> > > said after a traditional dance ceremony at a pagoda in front of 1,000
> > > people.
> > > Waving colourful Cambodian flags, Buddhist monks, nuns, students and
> > > teachers gathered at pagodas and schools nationwide and promptly beat 
> > > drums  and
> > > rang bells at 11:00 am (0400 GMT) to herald the listing, officials  said.
> > > "I am very happy and proud of Preah Vihear temple. The temple belongs to
> > > Cambodia. Thailand has no right to claim it," said student Hang Dalune as 
> > > at
> > > another event as hundreds of people sang and danced to nationalist songs,
> > > waving Cambodian flags.
> > > Soldiers, villagers, monks and officials at Preah Vihear also celebrated
> > > the listing despite a standoff nearby between Cambodian and Thai troops,
> > > Cambodian commanders said.
> > > The neighbouring countries have been at loggerheads over the land around
> > > the Preah Vihear temple for decades, but tensions spilled over into 
> > > violence
> > > last July when the temple was granted UN World Heritage status.
> > > Although the World Court ruled in 1962 that it belonged to Cambodia, the
> > > most accessible entrance to the ancient Khmer temple with its crumbling 
> > > stone
> > >  staircases and elegant carvings is from northeastern Thailand.
> > > Thousands of people were also expected to gather in Phnom Penh's Olympic
> > > Stadium Tuesday evening for an anniversary ceremony complete with a 
> > > fireworks
> > >  display, official speeches and patriotic songs.
> > > Relations between Thailand and Cambodia worsened last month when Bangkok
> > > announced it would ask UNESCO to reconsider its decision to list Preah 
> > > Vihear
> > >  as a world heritage site, as the surrounding land is still in dispute.
>
> > > --
> > > Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience  and tireless
> > > strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation!
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