Those are what yuons always did to escape from its responsability while
people revealed yuon crimes or dress
yuons face to its horrors.
mr ratanakiri, if you considered yourself as a mankind some dignity, you
rather debate of substance and ideas that are boarded rather than going
tracing and insult people for your own illness
----- Original Message -----
From: "rattanakiri" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: If Tuol Sleng Documents are fake
I hate to say a person but what Bopha Angkor is saying are not even
remotely factual. I do not know how she got all of these. It must be
the result of some psychotic episode. statement like youn control S-21
was repeated many by Pol Pot himself when he fell out of favor with the
rest of the remaining Khmer Rouge. He blamed all his crimes on the Youn.
thisbugone wrote:
Only yuons no Chinese influenced on Khmer Rouge at the time? Only yuons?
Khmers were killing other Khmers at the time during KR. Without the yuons
invasion in the late 70s, I probably won't be here and other Khmers won't
be around too. Of course, with the yuons invasion, yuons did benefits
from Cambodia too. Today, yuons still play a big part in Cambodia whether
you like it or not. The Cambodia government is still weak. Who is there
to blame. Khmers and only Khmers. Get over it!
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Bopha Angkor <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear Pou,
As it is being viewed, Tuol Sleng is known as Polpot territory or
at least what yuons want to world to see. Polpot believe he can
control something but in reality, polpot control nothing. Every of
elements that com posed polpot's power are yuons or borrow from
yuons. Only yuons alone who can have full hands over those
elements as the matter of fact, while yuons dont need polpot
anymore, yuons can easily chase polpot out from power to tope
another one more easy for yuons to handle. Yuons are gods of these
khmer rouge, yuons can create as yuons can destroy their tools.
I’m sure that Yuons did falsified or at least hide some part of
documents to turn things to its advantage. _*Yuons only show to
the world what yuons want the world to see*_. Duch has revealed
that there are yuons experts who worked or at least were there to
teach duch and other killers all the methods of tortures and
killing to be used in S21. I believe, not only in S21 that these
barbaric yuon methods are used against Khmer people but all over
Cambodian territory in that period as well.
I’m really interest to hear your witnesses. I hope at least your
witnesses can write their testimonies on papers and publish them
for the public.
Regards
Bopha Angkor
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*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2010 6:53 AM
*Subject:* If Tuol Sleng Documents are fake
*If Tuol Sleng Documents are fake*
** *By Baphuon*
If Tuol Sleng Documents are fake, manipulated, falsified,
doctored, and fabricated by Hanoi, it would be an earthquake
of tremendous Richter scale which hits Cambodia recent History.
It would change forever the History of Cambodia as we usually
knew until these days. Because Cambodia History as we knew
until now was written generally by scholars and academic
researches that were based on these documents which were
provided by Hanoi, and supposed to be Khmer Rouge documents
which were collected at Tuol Sleng Prison by the Vietnamese
invasion army as the Khmer Rouge fled to save their skin under
the hot pursuit of Vietnamese forces.
If the quoted premise is true, that is if Tuol Sleng Documents
are fake, manipulated, falsified, doctored, and fabricated by
Hanoi, then all the books and scholar researches would be
wrong because based on wrong and manipulated facts. In
Cambodia History as we usually knew, white would be in reality
black, and black would be white, day would be night and vice
versa. Vietnamese invasion forces instead of saving Cambodian
people, they were coming in reality to destroy Cambodia;
Cambodia attacked Vietnam turned out in reality, Vietnam
attacked Cambodia in 1978 to swallow Cambodia. And Vietnam
became responsible of Cambodia genocide.
Vietnam cannot hide anymore behind a smiling face telling the
world that they invaded Cambodia to save Cambodian people from
the extermination by Pol Pot armed forces.
If Vietnam invaded Cambodia in order to really save Cambodia
people why did Vietnam manipulate, falsify, fabricate, and
doctorate Tuol Sleng documents?
Tuol Sleng Documents were deposited at Document Center of
Cambodia (DCCam) and Yale University.
The ECCC (Khmer Rouge Tribunal) cannot make verdict of Khmer
Rouge leaders without assuring first the authenticity of any
document she used for the verdict. So the ECCC must prove the
authenticity/falsity of all Khmer Rouge documents provided by
Hanoi.
The ECCC cannot trust on expert opinion either because if the
expert opinion was based on Khmer Rouge documents provided by
Hanoi inevitably, irrefutably the expert conclusion would be
wrong because the staple documents provided by Hanoi were
manipulated.
A dozen of Cambodian who worked for the Vietnamese invasion
Army in 1979 still alive, living around the world, in the USA,
Europe and Cambodia, had worked for the Vietnamese invasion
Army at that time and under Vietnamese officer order had
fabricated, manipulated, falsify Tuol Sleng documents which
were later became Khmer Rouge document at Tuol Sleng left by
the Khmer Rouge leaders who fled for their life as the
Vietnamese invasion army chased them.
These Cambodian witnesses are ready to testify before any
international commission, US commission, European commission
or any organization set up by any big power commission if some
security measures were met because Cambodia is ran by a
fascist regime which eliminated all witnesses, judges and
investigators and their families members who testified against
them.
But if a commission is created to prove the
authenticity/falsity of Tuol Sleng documents, finally at the
end, it will be “You said, I said”.
Our Witnesses will say this Vietnamese/Cambodian officer was
the responsible of the manipulation of Tuol Sleng Documents. The
defendant Vietnamese/Cambodian officer would say: No, it
was not me. I knew nothing etc...
But still we think there have a way to find the truth. We
thought the FBI lab can certainly help to prove the
authenticity/falsity of Tuol Sleng Documents.
We urge the world to help Cambodia to render justice to
families of million victims of genocide.
We urge the UN, the US and the EU to set up a committee to
prove the authenticity/falsity of Tuol Sleng documents. That
is the very important key point to discover the truth of
Cambodia genocide.
Baphuon
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