It is good to know that you "Don't allow moral value to dictate what you are discussing on politics."
If you enter monkhood, you migth apreciate morality more. On Jan 28, 11:40 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > You can abuse or accuse anyone of doing something against your moral > value. In the third world countries, we call it a freedom of > expression. Perhaps Cambodia doesn't have it yet. I am talking from a > third world country. And perhaps we are living in two very different > countries. > It seems to me that Cambodia is considering moral value as a law or > something that PEOPLE MUSTobey. I have a hard believing it. > Moral value is a mutual respect coming out of an individual. It is not > something that the whole society has to do. On the other hand, this > value can be understood from person to person. One may think that this > value is bad while others are praising it. So moral value is a belief > of an individual. It cannot be considered as one thing with a true > meaning. > Don't allow moral value to dictate what you are discussing on > politics. It doesn't make any sense. > > On Jan 28, 4:37 am, Chon Chumleas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Pandits are called upon to practice life styles with sensitivity and > > sincerity. > > In Cambodia Buddhist community, collecting money during monkhood for > > dowry right after leaving the sangha is considering a violation of > > the public trust. > > It is not a legal issue but a moral one. > > > On Jan 27, 9:19 pm, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That is an individual. She/he has the right to do anything he wants as > > > long as it's nog against the law. The rule of Buddha does't have any > > > restriction on anyone except its sentimental values. If one choose to > > > respect that value, a group of people in that value would praise him/ > > > her. On the other hand, the same group can accuse anyone who have done > > > bad things to that value. They can condemn or whatever they want. > > > However, they must respect that personal individual rights as a person > > > to live in a free world. > > > > On Jan 27, 10:46 am, Chon Chumleas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Becoming a monk and leaving the sangha are matters of individual > > > > choice. > > > > While “Cambodian Buddhist believe that by offering gifts to monk, they > > > > will get good karma in return”, the use of the fund by the monk is the > > > > subject of interest. > > > > > On Jan 27, 1:53 am, rattanakiri <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Cambodian buddhist believe that by offering gifts to monk, they will > > > > > get > > > > > good karma in return. There is no clause that the monks have to stay > > > > > monk for a period of time, stay monk forever. If that is the case, > > > > > there is no single man to marry cambodian women. > > > > > only a few monks decide to stay in the monastery for life. > > > > > > Chon Chumleas wrote: > > > > > > If the messenger has a checkered past (collect the money during > > > > > > monkhood to be used as the dowry for his bride for example), there > > > > > > is > > > > > > a possibility that the delivery of the message will not be efficient > > > > > > because it is the law of moral causation (karma). > > > > > > In this case, the critics take the opportunity to reveal the dark > > > > > > side > > > > > > of the previous life of the messenger (real or imaginary monk) and > > > > > > dishonestly ignore the merit of the message (which is good enough > > > > > > to > > > > > > be published by well known newspaper Phnom Penh Post). > > > > > > The real issue is the suffering of the poor Cambodian farmers who > > > > > > are > > > > > > being robbed and harassed by the state machines of two countries > > > > > > (their own and their neighbor). > > > > > > > On Jan 26, 1:27 pm, sophan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> Dear Lok Pu Sombat; > > > > > > >> If you were there, many people were there, I apologize that I > > > > > >> cannot > > > > > >> recognize you. You admired me as a good monk (previously) in your > > > > > >> first message, but later you become feel frustrated about my > > > > > >> choice of > > > > > >> education and accommodation. I am grateful for part of your > > > > > >> interest > > > > > >> in Buddhism and the Buddhist monk conduct. But I suggest you to > > > > > >> talk > > > > > >> with many more people here in this link (http://www.dhammaram.info/ > > > > > >> documents/Recognition%20Certificate.pdf) and learn more about the > > > > > >> teaching of Lord Buddha particularly in part of Viniya and > > > > > >> Pathimokha > > > > > >> discourse. > > > > > > >> - I got scholarship from EWC for that subject. Political science is > > > > > >> not about power competition but about understanding the nature of > > > > > >> social issues/phenomena (like Thomas Hobbs said people are animal > > > > > >> by > > > > > >> nature. Each has discretely planned to take advantage over another > > > > > >> endlessly." > > > > > >> - We don't have Buddhist temple in Hawaii for monk to stay yet. The > > > > > >> current temple is just a temporary sala chan (dinning hall) in the > > > > > >> farm which is used for occasional ceremonies and it prohibits > > > > > >> people > > > > > >> to stay there. It is very very far away from the University. > > > > > > >> Please accept my sincere regards, > > > > > > >> Sophan > > > > > > >> On Jan 26, 10:10 am, Heng Sombat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>> Hi Chon, my location has nothing to do with my statement about SS > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> pretentious. And will not change my view of this issue. > > > > > > >>> On Jan 26, 2010, at 5:22 AM, Chon Chumleas > > > > > >>> <[email protected]> > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> Pretend that you are not living in Irvine, Ca, Honolulu, Hawaii, > > > > > >>>> Canada, France or Poipet for a moment but actually living as a > > > > > >>>> Cambodian farmer (not a monk- fake or not) in Koh Kban Kandal > > > > > >>>> village, > > > > > >>>> Samrong commune, Chantrea district, Svay Rieng province > > > > > >>>> (Cambodia or > > > > > >>>> Vietnam ?), what is your interpretation of the event? > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > > > >>>> Google > > > > > >>>> Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org" group. > > > > > >>>> This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul > > > > > >>>> language. > > > > > >>>> Thank you for your understanding. 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