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On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Krakmo Kaing <[email protected]>wrote: > បើខ្ញុំយល់មិនខុសទេ ក្រែងដំណើរទៅកាន់ VietCamLao ស្អីគេនឹង > ជាការស្រម័យរបស់លោក cppamerican ទេអី? ។ > > ចុះហេតុដូចម្តេច បានជាលោកពោលថា ឆ្កួតៗអីចឹង? ។ ម្យ៉ាងទៀត > លោកដូចជាមិនទាន់ឆ្លើយចំពោះសំនួរខ្ញុំថា៖ > > CPP=Cambodian Paople Party ដែលជាគណៈបក្សកាន់អំណាចសព្វថ្ងៃនៅភ្នំពេញ ។ > > > > *De :* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *De la > part de* Campatriot People Power CPP ????????????????????? > *Envoyé :* dimanche 12 septembre 2010 00:57 > *À :* [email protected] > *Objet :* Re: Federation Republic of Vietcamlao (CamLaoViet?): An > Introduction > > > > មិនគួរល្ងង់ទៅជឿអាស៊ីតវែប ឆ្កួតៗ Vietcamlao ស្អីគេនេះសោះឡើយ ? > កុំភ្លេចថា នៅលើពិភពលោកយើងនេះ មានអ្នកបានខ្លះបង្កើតប្លក > ដោយបានសេរសរតាពិសតាពៀស ដែលគ្មានមូលដ្ឋានច្បាស់លាស់ឡើយ ។ > ស៊ីតវែបVietcamlao ឆ្កួតៗមួយនេះមានតែពួកល្ងង់ទេ ដែលឲ្យតម្លៃទៅវា ! > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > Federation Republic of Vietcamlao: An > Introduction<http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/09/federation-republic-of-vietcamlao.html> > > Cambodian people and their leaders are active than proactive, > self-defensive than first striker; and they are peace-lovers until their > enemies offer them a deal of "peace, security, economic development and many > other incentives). It's common to see Cambodian politicians attacked each > other by both verbal and physical. Cambodia politics didn't have much space > for political maturity since the end of colonialism; and the aura of the > cold war placed Cambodia into decades of civil war and many of their kins > and brothers were mercilessly killed by their own hatred and ignorance. The > arrival of current age of globalization and economic liberalization has not > deposited Cambodia into a mature account. Many dissents and political > opponents are still weary to show up and free themselves from the court > system. > > > Ope-Ed: Sophan > S.<http://vietcamlao.blogspot.com/2010/09/federation-republic-of-vietcamlao.html> > > *Introduction* > > Federal Republic of Vietcamlao recently appeared in a social network > website named multiply.com posted by a Vietnamese called himself Phong. > After that, we see this documents spread in many blogs such as > ki-media.blogspot.com, cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com as well as > Vietnamese website based in Montreal of Canada vietnamville.ca. Although > those blogs/website sometime are not referral as an academic source, but > they have played important role as the medium to bridge all people to debate > political, social and economic issues. > > > > The Vietcamlao plan is not considered a new plan if we review the history > of Indochina Federation created by French colony. But the current Vietcamlao > plan is significantly illustrating the mindset of Vietnamese people and > leaders. *After reviewed the article and utilized online search engine > effectively, I have found that the Vietnamese preamble at the beginning and > the confederation article have been totally cut and pasted from other > websites*. Part of Vietnamese language at the beginning was translated > from wikipedia's article focused on > Federation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation>. > Part of the Confederation Article in English language was cut, pasted and > edited from another website <http://www.barefootsworld.net/aoc1777.html>. > The inconsistency of the document illustrates the incomplete work of the > author, or it is considered just part of author's leisure time spending on > the internet. *However, the mindset is really substantial for me to > further study*. More than this, the proposed capital city at Danang is > geopolitically significant; the drawing flag and its meaning as well as the > federation map, all are attractive to further study the thought, effort and > political trend of Vietnamese people and leaders in glancing at their > neighboring countries: Cambodia and Lao. > > *Erreur ! Nom du fichier non > spécifié.*<http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hqgVFA7RYE4/TINCZA8R9zI/AAAAAAAADwU/bHMhcuHT2Ps/s1600/Vietcamlao+flag.jpg> > > *Vietcamlao Federal Republic flag, blue symbolizes the sea, red for > courage and sacrifice to defend the country people, green for forests, > plains, 5 stars for 5 represents primary state of North, Central, South > Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. ( > http://ttxphongck.multiply.com/journal/item/237/237)* > > > > *Erreur ! Nom du fichier non > spécifié.*<http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hqgVFA7RYE4/TINCYzB6XiI/AAAAAAAADwM/afgGg1AJzhw/s1600/vietcamlao+amp.jpg> > > *Map of the Federal Republic of Vietcamlao with the capital city of Danang > (http://ttxphongck.multiply.com/journal/item/237/237)* > > In searching for truth of this Vietcamlao plan and Vietnamese mindset, we > will review some Cambodian books such as the "Westward Journey and the > Indochina in 2000" by Noun Koeun, Cambodia and Indochina Federation by Chan > Dara translated from French by Thong Ngoun and Pen Nearovi, and Border of > Cambodia with former Indochina Federation countries, a thesis by Sarin > Chhak. With this regard, we have many foreign books to read especially some > online websites such as wikipedia.com to complimentarily add to our > references. > > > > Vietcamlao likely used in the first time for the public for the 2010 annual > firework competition held in Danang. They named the firework team of Danang > as Danang's Federal Republic Vietcamlao team appeared in the > vietnamville.ca. > > > > *Erreur ! Nom du fichier non > spécifié.*<http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DLrKbBXIauY/TIcZJ5fXJLI/AAAAAAAAEqw/5wMU_VwFEI8/s1600/Vietcamlao.jpg> > > 2010 Firework Competition at Danang and the name of Vietcamlao Team ( > http://vietnamville.ca/article.3093) > > Danang is considered the key geopolitical site for Vietnam. French navy > firstly attacked and successful defeated Vietnamese troops at Danang which > could be expanded to colonize this country entirely later. During the > Vietnam war, American troops were importantly stationed at Danang to > confront with Vietminh from the North. Danang is the middle connector > between North and South and it has potential strategic point in expanding > its defending as well as economic investing between the North and the South > of Vietnam, Lao's ancient capital city of Luang Preah Bang, and Phnom Penh > of Cambodia. Interestingly, that Vietnamese blogger still called Cambodia > and Lao as their origin Nam Vang. > > Capital: Da Nang City as the strategic location and en read more distance > to the federal capital, about 600km air, extremely convenient en Strategies > and distance to the federal capital, about 600km air, extremely Convenient. > > HN - DN 605KM > > SAIGON - DN 611KM > > VIENTIANE - DANANG 607.09 KM > > PHNOM PENH - Business - 601 KM > (http://ttxphongck.multiply.com/journal/item/237/237) > > Defending and economic development of Vietcamlao federal republic, the blog > has significantly exhibited. The wide broad China sea are well stationed the > heavy warship and Truong Son tunnel is well placed for the ground > transportation between each state of the federation. > > *Erreur ! Nom du fichier non spécifié.* > > Lao Viet rail tunnel through the Truong Son ( > http://ttxphongck.multiply.com/journal/item/237/237) > > > > *Erreur ! Nom du fichier non spécifié.* > > East Sea Fleet to protect the territorial waters and island ( > http://ttxphongck.multiply.com/journal/item/237/237) > > > > *Erreur ! Nom du fichier non spécifié.* > > Aircraft carrier Navy Vietnam Cam federal Laos (VCL) ( > http://ttxphongck.multiply.com/journal/item/237/237) > > Cambodian blogger geeks have effortlessly expressed their opinion. They are > anonymous comments interesting to further perceive Khmer mindset. Responding > to the fake or truth of the document, ki-media team placed their question > "Vietcamlao Federation Republic dominated by Vietnam: a slick blueprint > scheme?". However, more than 30 anonymous comments thrown at this question > have majorly shown their worrisome concern. Among those comments, superpower > and international political players linking to this plan were logically > uttered. > > China has no choice but to do everything in her power to prevent Indochina > federation from becoming a reality for an obvious reason. > > China's security will face greater challenge with the presence of Indochina > federation at her doorstep because Vietnam has long historical animosity > with China, and Vietnam will not, as it did in the seventies, hesitate to > ally itself with Russia, America or any other Superpower in order to advance > its Westward expansionist ambition and counter China's influence. > > Because of that inherent security posture, no superpower has more interest > to save Cambodia than China. Every Khmer, regardless of their political > view, must understand that - China is our only way and hope to prevent Ho > Chi Minh's dream from becoming a reality. > > Long live to the Khmer Nation! > > ( > http://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/09/veitcamlao-federal-republic-dominated.html > ) > > Answering to the mass hysteria might be happened from this public > information as a blog geek named Khmer Young posited his analysis as > following that if we don't deeply weigh the flaws Cambodia has involved with > Vietnam, we cannot get the useful conclusion and he laid out sixth analyzing > factors such as: > > 1. The curiosity on current Cambodia-Vietnam relationship which are > gradually heightened while Cambodian government pays less attention to the > importance of Paris Peace Accord of 23 October 1991 but the government > celebrated annually the day of 7 January 1979 when Vietnamese troops > occupied Cambodia. > 2. The supplemental border treaty enacted in 2005 to the addendum of > previous treaties Vietnam and Cambodia had signed during Vietnamese troops > occupation. It was controversial that many Khmer dissents were convicted > and > jailed. > 3. Absolute major law-makers of Cambodian People's Party in this > mandate have gradually displayed its political monopoly as other political > parties' members (opposition parties) have been easily distracted, or > immunity lifted, or convicted by the court, or hidden themselves from the > public because of fear of political reprisal. > 4. Booming investment and trade between Cambodia and Vietnam has > tremendously experienced trading deficit. It is not in equilibrium as > Cambodian middle classes and farmers have hugely consumed Vietnamese goods > and services. > 5. During this decade, numerous exchange visits and agreements between > Cambodia and Vietnam exceedingly surpassed other countries. This has placed > doubts for Cambodian people towards that friendship acceleration, mutual > assistance, and cooperation. > 6. The big wall of barrier in Cambodia is that Cambodian people can see > only the cultural renaissance, songs and entertainment, the absence of war, > sky-crappers and urban sprawling, economic booming and visible border > demarcation etc. > > *Sixth*, Cambodia is concealed by cultural revival, war survival, > nationalism and physical border demarcation to be blinded not to see the > actual legal and political processes of achieving Confederation. ( > cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com) > > Furious Cambodian dissents about the domination of Vietnam over Cambodia > have appeared since the retreat of French colony and it has continuously > embedded in their mind ever since. Many Cambodian scholars and authors have > numerously written books and sometime created popular proverbs > counter-strike the scheme of domination attempt of Vietnam. Of course, this > domination behavior and furious mindset was rooted by the colonialism and it > become an unstoppable legacy. > > > > Cambodian people and their leaders are active than proactive, > self-defensive than first striker; and they are peace-lovers until their > enemies offer them a deal of "peace, security, economic development and many > other incentives). It's common to see Cambodian politicians attacked each > other by both verbal and physical. Cambodia politics didn't have much space > for political maturity since the end of colonialism; and the aura of the > cold war placed Cambodia into decades of civil war and many of their kins > and brothers were mercilessly killed by their own hatred and ignorance. The > arrival of current age of globalization and economic liberalization has not > deposited Cambodia into a mature account. Many dissents and political > opponents are still weary to show up and free themselves from the court > system. > > > > This paper intends to demonstrate the feasible existence of Federation > Republic of Vietcamlao though the author of this article has loosely made it > up for the public stun. This study is part of the macro politics looking at > the region broader than just worrying and protesting the border scheme, > corruption, Khmer Krom and Khmer Leu ethnics, and land grabbing etc. Those > are micro level which are also important but they are not that proactive > premises. So, is it time for Cambodian people and their leaders to look at > the foundation of Vietcamlao Federal Republic or not? Is it time to ask > incumbent Kingdom of Cambodia, Lao People's Democrat Republic (LPDP), and > Socialist Republic of Vietnam about this Federation plan or not? Cambodian > people have to wait until time and trend will tell or not? > > > > The puzzling questions rest on what is the credibility of Vietcamloa > Federation Republic? What changes in public relations between Cambodia and > Vietnam since the retreat of colonialism, the end of cold war and to the > current overarching trend of global movements? > > > Further more, this study will foreseeably diffuse more participation of > Cambodian people in political activities and elections. It is expected to > empower social capital of Cambodia in regard political involvement such as > political party, political campaign, elections, grassroots movements, > freedom of expression and local governance. > > > The author has fully been aware of barriers to fully accomplish this study. > Lacking of official papers of Vietcamlao Federal Republic, lacking of > economic books regarding the diplomatic tie of Cambodia-Vietnam after the > colonial period till now, and the sufficient use of public opinion, all are > well accommodated in the agenda. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. > This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. > Thank you for your understanding. 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