Most Cambodians liked it because they really didn't know how corrupt the Sihanouk government were. My friend, They killed their enemies like they killed ants.
On Sep 15, 6:04 am, Chetrasena <[email protected]> wrote: > IN CAMDISC .I respect your opinion. The Sangkum Reast Niyum era under > leadership of former king Norodom Sihanouk was an golden era of the > Khmer kingdom, according to most scholars and historians . Most Khmer > people were happy living under regime, peace, prosperous and khmer > social fabric was strong . For certain > place and some people were not happy because they live in remote > controlled area by Khmer Rouge and Khmer Serey . You disagreed with > his policy, but majority did. You live in America and you are > Republican, I bet you loved Tea party and Do not like Obama policy. > > On Sep 15, 12:01 am, InCamdisc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Chetrasena, > > > I have to disagree a lot with your whole statements. I don't call Norodom > > Sihanouk era is a golden one. American coupe is the think to do. Vietcong > > were all over Cambodia until 1973. Not just in Svay Rieng or Prey Veng. The > > vietcong troops are always inside Battambang. Please tell my how many time > > he were prime minister of the kingdom? His girlie behavior kills many > > innocent Khmers who disagree with his policy. Khmer were living without > > freedom. At that time, you even can't step or throw out his pictures. > > > On Sep 14, 2010, at 8:40 PM, Chetrasena <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Nokoreach : I am not an aveugle person as you said . I lived and I > > > embedded with the situation from the beginning to the end . I was more > > > Lon Nol than Lon Nol during the 70's, unfortunately I was too young > > > had no clue what was going on during that time. Learning from the past > > > has taught me a lots, whatever had happened should not happen . I > > > loved Sangkum Reast Niyum period, the golden era of the kingdom after > > > 200 years of turmoil . Keeping short, I asked you to give up your > > > emotional hatred against the former monarch . Yes, he did wrong in > > > certain policy during his rule, but he did the good deed to his > > > kingdom and his people too. You must accept reality I do not want to > > > debate with you about the anatomy of the 70's coup . Reading from > > > American and Western informations gave me lots of knowledge about the > > > tragic event of the country, otherwise I was condemned of being > > > ignorant .The purpose of my response to your statement is to defend > > > what is right and what is wrong . > > > I agreed to certain points that you and others described, but the > > > whole things were not true .It was to bad for Cambodian Monarchy > > > institution did not have Western defender like Thailand . During the > > > first coup d'etat of Thailand of 1932, Thai's Monarchy was almost > > > destroyed, but England stood firm to defend that institution by > > > threatening to use force against the coup plotters, then agreement was > > > reached from absolute monarch to constitutional monarch . France was > > > too weak to defend Cambodia monarchy, despite France effort to call > > > for Geneva conference to restore former king back to power, but was > > > unsuccessful, especially from American and Vietnamese sides, also > > > Khmer Rouge leaders were delight for the good work of Lon Nol to get > > > rid off former king from the power. Ieng Sary admitted The event in > > > Cambodia of March 18, 1970 was a debut of kingdom catastrophy . If we > > > learned from Thailand coup, the event would be different, but Khmer > > > Amarts were not matured as Thai counterpart, because Khmer Amarts did > > > not learn history, they have no clue about history, they did not even > > > know what they were doing, emotion over reason .All universities in > > > America were completely closed during the event in Cambodia of March > > > 70, some student activists were killed by national guard in Kent State > > > and Washington DC. Nokoreach did you know whatever happened in > > > Cambodia at that time affected American policy in USA ? Did American > > > had sympathy toward Khmer Republic leaders ? Did you read Kissinger > > > book ? During the 80's in China Henry Kissinger had tried to have > > > audience with former monarch to tell former king about his feeling, he > > > admitted that he did not like Lon Nol group, but his requested was > > > turned down.There are plenty of informations archived in American > > > libraries relating to the event of March 70's. As I said early, no one > > > in Khmer Republic leaders understood American policy, they only know > > > to assume and accept without reasons . > > > > On Sep 14, 8:42 pm, "Nokoreach" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Chetrasena !!! > > >> C'est inutile et il fait perdre du temps pour discuter > > >> avec quelqu'un sympathisant aveuglement de tel individu. > > >> Pour mettre fin la discussion entre vous et moi sur les > > >> activit�s criminelles du traitre Norodom Sihanouk menant > > >> le Cambodge et son peuple khmer � la ruine, � la guerre civile, > > >> autorisant des troupes nord-vietnamiennes et des Viet-congs > > >> � envahir, � d�truire le Cambodge en cendre depuis son ascen- > > >> sion comme Chef d'�tat ill�gal � vie de 1960 � 1970. Suite de ces > > >> lourdes cons�quences des ambitions de cet homme (Sihanouk) > > >> notre Cambodge bien-aim� se trouve ultime aujourd'hui englouti > > >> par des Yuons, ennemis num�ro un de notre Nation khm�re. > > >> Veuillez donc lire et relire le communisme Yuon et Norodom > > >> Sihanouk, et les remarques de M. Chau X�ng Ua en pdf file en > > >> Khmer, en Anglais et en Fran�ais ci-joints. > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Chetrasena" <[email protected]> > > >> To: "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org" > > > >> <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 6:32 PM > > >> Subject: Re: sihanouk-viet001-06.pdf > > > >> Nokor Reach. That is your personal opinion too . You forget this > > >> kingdom was found and supported by the three pillars which translated > > >> in the the three mottos, King, Relegion and Nation. Without these > > >> three pillars, the whole kingdom would collapse as we had seen.There > > >> has been no leader can rule the kingdom of Cambodia that lasted longed > > >> with the absence of monarchy institution .From Lon Nol to Pol Pot, > > >> how long they had lasted ? The country had plunged into civil war then > > >> to genocide . Today the ruling party has played different tactics, > > >> keep the institution and ruled differently.Who advised them to do > > >> that, you think they like former king personally ? For the sake of > > >> stability and prosperity on their terms, the monrachy institution must > > >> be restored and supported . As you know the world and majority of > > >> peace loving people are looking a big picture, the well being of the > > >> people including peace, stability and economic prosperity , then they > > >> can do something else . Historically, there are bad kings and good > > >> kings like other countries around the globe. > > > >> On Sep 14, 9:05 am, "Nokoreach" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> Chetrasena !!! > > >>> I don't agree with you. Your opinion reflects only and only on your > > >>> personal idea, who (body and soul) serves, loves and respects blindly > > >>> Norodom Sihanuk without reserves and without conditions. > > > >>> Norodom Sihanuk and his all members's family ( Kings : Ang �ng, > > >>> Ang Chan, Ang Mey, Ang B�n, Ang Duong, Norodom, Sisowath, > > >>> Sisowath Monivong, Norodom Sihamoni, nexts...was, are and shall be > > >>> the traitors unforgivable (unpardonable) of our beloved Cambodia > > >>> and Khmers Peoples. > > > >>> Please see pdf file in Khmer attached. > > >>> Nokoreach > > >>> Thanks, > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: "Chetrasena" <[email protected]> > > >>> To: "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org" > > > >>> <[email protected]> > > >>> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:06 PM > > >>> Subject: Re: sihanouk-viet001-06.pdf > > > >>> Nokor reach : That was a foreign policy of the Kingdom at that time . > > >>> The former king was not fully aware dubious and deceit policy of his > > >>> friend and allies . At the meantime the world was deeply engaged a > > >>> cold war.The "tiny shitty country Cambodia" as President Nixon had > > >>> called > > >>> was under tremendous pressure from all sides of the conflicts .He > > >>> attempted to maintain his kingdom to be free from the war. As you know > > >>> on the East, South Vietnam under Diem regime was so arrogant to the > > >>> king, by plotting coup against him, and the West Bangkok military > > >>> regime of Sarit-Thanat Khoman and Thnom Kattikachorn were harbouring > > >>> Khmer Serei insurgencies against him . The former king chose China to > > >>> be his best friend forever based on proximity and non-inteference > > >>> policy . Since the world, especially USA, USSR and China were at peak > > >>> of cold war, the Vietnam war was played out as main focal point of > > >>> conflicts . Defending the freedom and spreading communism were the > > >>> policies of the superpowers,in fact Vietnam had their own intention > > >>> and agenda, nationalism was a cause of struggle, Vietnam must be > > >>> united . It was to bad, the kingdom of Cambodia had no good Amarts > > >>> ( Manderins ) like the next door kingdom . All his Amarts who were > > >>> sworn in front of Khmer ancestors turned to be his betrayers for > > >>> example the 70's coup d'etat . Most of Khmer Republic leaders had no > > >>> clue what they were doing, and they had no clue about American policy > > >>> when they were abandoned, the consequence was catastrophic. On the > > >>> other side KR was ignorant about China policy, Ieng Sary thought when > > >>> Vietnamese troups came to Cambodia, China would send their massive > > >>> troups to defend his regime, but miscalculated. Good and bad time, > > >>> China always be there to support former king without China, the royal > > >>> family would be vanished without a trace > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
