I respect the last both persons who give me a lot exemple above calling Khmer or Cambodian, but when given such good idea, another thing come up into other question?
How about all Khmer must have right to get Khmer citizen? Could Cambodian goverment give Khmer citizen to Khmer Surin(Thailand) and Khmer in South Vietnam? And could this goverment give Khmer Citizen to Vietnamese, Chinese, and others nationals living in Cambodia for generations as Khmer citizen? Please explain that, I will have other questions to offer both of you about Cambodian and Khmer. Thank you very much One Neak Kampuchea On Nov 7, 1:18 pm, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > Anyone can name anything as they please. > It is just for an identification for something. In this case, it is > for Cambodia. > If Cambodians identify themselves as Cambodians or any other words, > they are still Cambodians, no matter which word they are using. > > My friend, > I don't know how you see it. Vietnamese is Vietnamese. They live in > their country called Vietnam. > Cambodian Vietnamese are still Vietnamese. And they live in Vietnam. > People are using Khmer Krom. They are Vietnamese who are living in > Vietnam. > That land belongs to Vietnam. Don't try to say that it is Cambodian > land. It is not. > > On Nov 7, 8:22 am, rick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Neak Kampuchea is right for oneself. But most Khmer do not buy your > > theory. Khmer is Khmer, Kmer Kroum is Khmer, Vietnamese is Vietnamese, > > Chinese is Chinese. Khmer want to be indentified who they are and > > what their history is. They want to be independent and prosperous, and > > unique in or outside Cambodia. Other race fell and do the same thing. > > Being Khmer and Cambodian is not much a different if one commit to the > > good cause of such country or identity in which they live or belong > > to. What are you trying to say ? are you Khmer, Vietnamese , Chinese > > or what ? The word CAMBODIA was invented and intended to sound > > KAMPUCHEA OR KAMPUJIA in latin but it is sounded in English instead, > > so another word KAMPUCHEA was introduced. Neak Kampuchea seems to have > > troubled with self-conflict name. Why you name yourself the name that > > represent people you seems to dislike or have trouble with ? > > > On Oct 26, 5:07 am, Neak Kampuchea <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > THIS IS KHMER KROM ATTITUDE. > > > > We, Cambodian speak Khmer at home, as Chinese and Vietnamese do theirs > > > in any country on this Globe. We still maintain our identity and > > > national pride for hundred years to come. Why Khmer Krom are doing the > > > opposite way outside Kampuchea Krom? > > > > They are claiming that Khmer culture is their unique soul, but they > > > don’t understand what means Khmer culture, in which have been composed > > > Khmer tone Language, Khmer custom, Khmer style of clothe, Khmer style > > > of Art, and Khmer way of life. > > > > They are always claiming that because they are oppressed of Human > > > Rights under Communist Viet. But when they are already abroad, why > > > they still do the same as they did in Khmer Krom. There is no excuse > > > for a better communication as most Khmer Krom speak Vietnamese at home > > > while they are abroad. This attitude shows that they are completly > > > Vietnamese (Yuon) no matter they are of Khmer ethnic or others. > > > > For that reason above, Khmer Krom Communities have already been more > > > than halfway integrated into Vietnamese society. Look at them, when > > > they speak Khmer, they do with > > > > 100% Vietnamese tone; if we listen to them we think they are real > > > Vietnamese as in addition to their women wearing of Vietnamese style > > > costume. > > > > 99% of their young generation men and women speak Vietnamese at home > > > and in public. All their children like to make boyfriends and > > > girlfriends with Vietnamese kids rather than Khmer's they say too > > > primitive and ugly; as we have seen anywhere around the world: In > > > U.S.A, in Canada, in Australia and in France as well. > > > > Old Khmer Krom of pure Khmer culture are becoming minority among their > > > own Khmer Krom communities in their own Khmer Krom homeland. They will > > > vanish away in a few years ahead leaving young Khmer Krom generation > > > fully integrated to Vietnamese. > > > > KKrom say that they hate Vietnamese, but some time they forget to > > > control themselves, when they have seen their Khmer Krom close friends > > > near by, they just shouted louder for calling them in Vietnamese > > > worlds in the face of every Cambodian. > > > > This is the Khmer Krom social attitude, which could not be corrected > > > even someone of them realize this fault. If this, Khmer Krom think, is > > > not their fault, because they are themselves already becoming real > > > Vietnamese... Aren't they? As they are so, how the Khmer krom > > > could liberate their land? > > > > Most of them are criminals committed in South Vietnam when they escape > > > to Cambodia. Some of those criminals are often disguised as monks for > > > easy concealing their outlaw behind Buddhism. > > > > Arriving at Cambodia’s border those criminal shave each others heads > > > then wrap themselves in yellow robe for misguiding as real monks > > > escaping Vietnamese religious prosecution so that they will for sure > > > be accepted and 100% protected by Cambodian border guards and would be > > > set in some Buddhist temples anywhere in the country. > > > > At an opportunity time they go secret defogged themselves for > > > integrated in Cambodian social mass. Most of them form political > > > groups demonstrating Khmer love Khmer example for Cambodian to follow > > > against Vietnamese. But this is ridiculous as at their home in > > > Cambodia their whole families, husbands, wives and children speak > > > Vietnamese to each others. > > > > As the matter of above facts, making Khmer Krom government in exile is > > > a real clown game just for raising money for their own pockets. > > > Nothing they could do other than to travel. Travel back and forth, > > > lying...lying...then raise money again and again. This is a small > > > group of crooked Khmer Krom scholars who just want to make dishonest > > > profit and take free vacations, on the back of their own people > > > anywhere each year. > > > > Look at the Kurd land parts in Turkey, in Iran and in Iraq; Western > > > power said you must stay always as Turkish, Iranian and Iraqis, the > > > only way we can do for you is only to urge Human Rights implementation > > > in each country you live, Khmer Krom is the same way. > > > > Cambodia’s government must set up a special team for investigating > > > each Khmer Krom immigrant who has arrived to settle in Cambodia, in > > > close relation with VN government to check their previous home’s > > > country activities. If crimes were found, individuals must be sent > > > back to their home country for serving prison terms. > > > Kampuchun. > > > > On Oct 25, 8:46 pm, Neak Kampuchea <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Understanding why Khmer abroad are so divided. > > > > > Cambodia’s inhabitants should be called in English “Cambodian”, and in > > > > Khmer “Chun-Kampuchea” or Kampuchun or simply “Kampuchea”. > > > > This way every Cambodian would agree and accept Cambodia’s > > > > citizenship, regardless of Khmer or none Khmer ethnic exclusion. > > > > But when we call them Khmer, only a fraction of them has believed its > > > > but majority thinks no: I’m none Khmer individuals; I’m hybrid with > > > > new face Cambodian. They know for sure they can not change their own > > > > race to Khmer’s even though they want to. People can change > > > > citizenship, but never be able to get done on origin. > > > > > For now most Cambodian in the country are politically forced to be > > > > self-proclaimed Khmer or in other words compelled to be Khmer due to > > > > Cambodian constitution, that has wrongly been translated and adopted > > > > from certain English clauses from international Paris’s accord text on > > > > Cambodia in1991, causing false Khmer citizen from the true Cambodian > > > > citizen. > > > > Khmer citizen in English term is none sense as Khmer is not the name > > > > the country for which, the sole title is Cambodia and its people is > > > > Cambodian with no exception. > > > > > Most mainstream Cambodian has never accepted to be of what is not his > > > > own kind. They are obligated to keep quiet but apprehensive of what > > > > they are forced to be bearing. They have a doubt security on where > > > > they are living, because they feel foreigners on their own homeland. > > > > > This is the reason why people just want to immigrate for living in > > > > other countries where there is more acceptances with more freedom of > > > > expression. If it’s impossible to do so, people will be eager to get > > > > corrupted with a quick-rich or a quick-powerful so that they could > > > > make money they may possibly send their kids oversea for better > > > > education in a real freedom ship environment experience. > > > > When they will be back, they would be in the top team so that they > > > > could make themselves top politicians for helping change the country > > > > in bringing back Cambodian citizenship to its own place in Cambodian > > > > constitution. > > > > > There were more than 3/4 million Cambodian living abroad. They fled > > > > the country following Khmer rouge’s purge 1975-1979. Now 99% of them > > > > are becoming citizens of the country they are living where there are > > > > adequate health care along with freedoms of expression, freedoms of > > > > choice, and freedoms of belief. Most of them even dare to pronounce > > > > things louder than ever. A lot said: I don’t like to participate > > > > where there are a lot of ethnic Khmer although I’m used to be self- > > > > proclaimed Khmer, but me’m not. > > > > > Unlike flourishing Lao’s, Thai’s, Vietnamese’s, Korean’s and Chinese’s > > > > associations, Khmer organization are always troublesome due to the > > > > fact they name themselves Khmer, which does not represent a broad > > > > range of all integrated Cambodia’s inhabitants namely Cambodian. > > > > > This is a clear persistent weakness of one nation that had never > > > > changed from a Great Hinduism Khmer empire to a small Buddhism state, > > > > in which diverse people of Cambodia had already been integrated in one > > > > sole Cambodian. 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