We know that Cambodians have thousands years of culture. I agree with that. That history tells the truth about Cambodians themselves. Look back to the Angkor empire. The monarchy treat Cambodians as slaves. People died to build temples, palaces for the god king. Today Cambodian monarchy is still the same. Ordinary people should worship their god king.
Now let us look at another part of the Cambodian history. The society has been divided into separate classes. If you are poor, you will pass that poverty to your children endlessly. It is still exist today. Now let us go to the darkest chapter of the Cambodian history. Khmer rouge raised the peasants into an elite class of the Cambodian society. Then all of them killed their own people in their own country with their own hands. They brought Cambodia to ground zero. Here is even worse when Cambodians try to blame it on other countries. My friend, Those are parts of your glorical history of Cambodia. Please don't try to defend it. It is the truth of the Cambodian society. You will not win. Vietnamese, Kissingers, or America have not done such things to Cambodia. It was the Cambodians themselves who destroy their own country with their own hands. Let me make it very clear. The above statements doesn't mean that Cambodians should defend their own socereingtyand country. Actually many Cambodians have been doing that. I brought it up because there are people who are still trying to make Cambodians as victims of acts from other countries. Cambodians are not that innocent. It has been the Cambodian people who fight other Cambodians for power in their own country with their own hands with or without the help or influence from other countries. This is a fact, truthful written in history. Here is my view. Cambodians should join Thailand as one nation so they can enjoy peace and prosperity as the Thai people have under a grat leadership of Thai monarchy. I know you do not like. Yet think about it. How much longer do people of Cambodia have to suffer from social classification, impunity, corruption in a rotten society where killing humanity is a sport. That is cambodia. On Apr 24, 12:52 pm, "Bopha Angkor" <[email protected]> wrote: > Unlike yuons or siams, Khmer has many thousand years of culture before being > dominated by yuons and yuon culture. I believe yuons should better back its > sorry ass to Tokin to be Chinese criminals and slaves as the old time under > the great Chinese leadership than little bunch of criminal and assassins. > Youns will be better under Chinese leadership than led by a bunch of > criminal with its culture, its down visions of thing and of the world. Only > Chinese can control the bunch of yuon criminals and can offer yuons some > culture and some human forms to these yuon criminals because Chinese know > yuons better than anyone else. It is also the best way for yuons to fight > its old master and enemy from inside. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kangaroo" <[email protected]> > To: "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org" > > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 9:11 PM > Subject: Re: Fwd: Vietnam-Cambodia relations from Truong Minh Giang to > Nguyen Tan Dung > > My friend, > Thailand would never join communist Vietnam. > On the other hand, I am still stand on what I said in the past. > Cambodians would be better under Vietnam because their own governments > have put them through so much to ground zero from one generation to > another. I am not kidding. Vietnamese would make Cambodians feel > better if Cambodia is a part of Vietnam. > > However, I prefer to see Cambodains as parts of Thailand instead > because I believe Thailand has alot to offer if Cambodia join Thailand > as one country called the Kingdom of Thailand under the leadership of > Thail monarchy. > > And I am serious. > > On Apr 22, 4:33 pm, Chetrasena <[email protected]> wrote: > > President Nguyen Minh Triet called for unity among three indo-chinese > > states, Cambodia, Lao and Vietnam during the security meeting on April > > 20 at Ho Chi Minh city.He said that the reactionary forces continue to > > sabotage the friendship and solidarity between the three countries.The > > reactionary forces are the peaceful democratic movement in Cambodia, > > Lao and Vietnam must be eliminated and capitulated. So the visit of > > Premiere Dung to the Kingdom is very important, not only for > > investment, but something more than that. The king left for China for > > medical reason and declined to attend royal wedding at England. The > > three Samdachs are welcoming and hosting their friend Nguyen Tan Dung. > > > On Apr 22, 1:09 pm, khmer sralanh khmer > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rainsy Sam <[email protected]> > > > > April 22, 2011 > > > > VIETNAM-CAMBODIA RELATIONS > > > FROM TRUONG MINH GIANG TO NGUYEN TAN DUNG > > > > To welcome Vietnam Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung who is starting an > > > official visit in Cambodia on April 23, opposition radio stations in > > > Phnom Penh started today to broadcast an interview with Sam Rainsy in > > > which the latter compares Nguyen Tan Dung to Truong Minh Giang. > > > > Truong Minh Giang was an army general from Annam (precursor of > > > Vietnam) in the first half of the 19th century who administered > > > Cambodia as a colony of the imperial court of Hue (capital of Annam). > > > At that time, Cambodia s King named Ang Chan was just a puppet, having > > > been installed on the throne by a foreign occupation army led by > > > Truong Minh Giang. Cambodia s territories were being seized by Annam > > > which started to annex Cambodia s southern part known as Kampucha Krom > > > where a massive and steady flow of Vietnamese immigrants were > > > establishing an increasing number of foreign settlements. > > > > French researcher Michel Blanchard (in Vietnam-Cambodge: Une > > > fronti re contest e , L Harmattan, 1999) wrote: > > > Tr s affaibli, le royaume khmer [capitale Oudong] maintint > > > cependant une administration dans les provinces du Kampuchea Krom > > > jusque dans les ann es 1840. Nous sommes alors encore dans le syst me > > > de la peau de l opard , l unit du territoire khmer tant bris e par > > > de enclaves vietnamiennes, mais la souverainet tant partag e entre > > > les cours de Hu et de Oudong sur leurs nationaux respectifs. La > > > fronti re entre les deux pays, de ce fait, est donc difficile tracer > > > et n a, ce moment, rien de lin aire ( ). > > > > L expansion vietnamienne s acc l ra sous le r gne de la reine > > > cambodgienne Ang Mi, plac e sur le tr ne par les Vietnamiens en 1834. > > > Des fortins [vietnamiens] furent construits un peu partout, et les > > > r voltes [cambodgiennes] r prim es dans le sang. Mais les Vietnamiens, > > > conduits par Truong Minh Giang, all rent trop loin en pratiquant une > > > vietnamisation outrance. En 1840, un soul vement g n ral des > > > populations cambodgiennes se produisit tant au Cambodge lui-m me que > > > dans les provinces du delta du M kong [Kampuchea Krom] en voie > > > d annexion . > > > > Much weakened, the Khmer kingdom [capital city at Oudong] > > > nevertheless maintained an administration in the provinces of > > > Kampuchea Krom until the years 1840s. We were still then in the system > > > of leopard skin , the Khmer territorial unity being broken par > > > Vietnamese enclaves [represented by the dark spots on a leopard skin], > > > with sovereignty being shared between the imperial/royal courts of Hue > > > and Oudong on their respective nationals. Subsequently, the border > > > between the two countries was difficult to trace and was, at that > > > time, anything but a straight line (...). > > > > Vietnamese expansion accelerated under the reign of Cambodian Queen > > > Ang Mi, who was put on the throne by the Vietnamese in 1834. > > > Vietnamese military forts were built all over the country and revolts > > > by the Cambodian people repressed in blood. But the Vietnamese, led by > > > Truong Minh Giang, went too far by implementing a systematic > > > vietnamization of the country. En 1840, a general uprising of the > > > Cambodian populations took place in Cambodia itself as well as in the > > > Mekong delta provinces of Kampuchea Krom in the process of being > > > annexed by Vietnam. > > > > The current puppet Cambodian prime minister Hun Sen, who was installed > > > in power by another Vietnamese invasion army in 1979, is as harmful > > > for Cambodia as the former puppet Cambodian monarchs Ang Chan and Ang > > > Mi. Even though the current Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung > > > is more subtle politically than General Truong Minh Giang, their > > > objective remains the same: To swallow Khmer lands until Cambodia s > > > extinction. > > > > In the 19th century, the dark spots on the leopard skin were > > > Vietnamese settlements and military fortifications. At the beginning > > > of this 21st century, they are the economic concessions and other > > > huge land concessions granted in increasing number by Hun Sen to > > > Vietnamese companies for the colonization of Cambodia. Nguyen Tan Dung > > > is now in Cambodia to inspect the ongoing colonization process. Truong > > > Minh Giang in his tomb can be proud of his successors. > > > > Listen to Sam Rainsy s interview in Khmer athttp://tinyurl.com/3l2avzl > > > > SRP Members of Parliament > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hide > > > quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org" group. > This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. > Thank you for your understanding. 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