Khmer Empire had fragmented and changed. First Sanskrit/Khmer builders had been Hindu believers of Shiva God, from which its power had been coming down to the living King as all his orders had then religiously been embedded in God’s orders. This was the true first Sanskrit/Khmer king power for exploring new unknown world, killing several thousand local indigenous resistant groups for capturing their lands, establishing Khmer Empire with thousand stone building Temples.
Providentially first Sanskrit/Khmer conquerors had always kept alive individuals who had surrendered to them, mostly women, children and young innocent minority persons or groups with any different dialects they had been speaking with. There has then had social transformation proceeding to Sanskrit/Khmer Hindu culture through hundred years of peace time, during which Sanskrit/Khmer speaking and Hinduism belief education had been done to all local indigenous. This Sanskrit/Khmer culture foundation heritage, which had been self- evaluated as highly superior, was intended to get a religious motivation for building a success of one large Khmer Empire. Thousand Hindu stone temples had been built all over Khmer territories as evidences are shown. First Sanskrit/Khmer king establisher had appointed his sons or brothers or cousins on every conquered territory as provincial king- Governors with sufficient number of Sanskrit/Khmer warriors for controlling their local regional. He had then become the king of kings (king of provincial kings); who must execute all orders from him as from Shiva God. There was no clear political strategy; all power had depended on people belief of Shiva God. Everything could be done; likewise, Khmer-Sanskrit-speaking people had taken hundred years for building Angkor and Bayon Temple, from one generation to another. There was no political cleverness tactic for controlling the empire from the top to the bottom for a long time to come as how to communicate faster enough as needed in time of troubles; as history had revealed that it had taken months for being able to communicate orders, back and forth, from and to Angkor capital city. Sanskrit/Khmer Social and religious evolution. This change had been developing in Khmer empire itself, through 500 years of peace time, in which, Buddhism has had silently been on the rise in North Eastern among Siamese indigenous group, through Mekong river bancs then went down stream for hundred years until the end of delta shore, and had slowly spread outward all over the entire empire amid all indigenous locals. During those 500 years internal stability, thousand and thousand powerful Hindu Sanskrit/Khmer warriors and Hindu Sanskrit/Khmer local ruler leaders alike had abused their power for getting free sex with Buddhist native women or girls any time they wanted. Then they had been creating Buddhist Khmer/Siamese/hybrid, Khmer/Viet/hybrid, and Khmer/Lao Hybrid children. Those new hybrid kids had been feeding and raising by their Buddhist mothers, which had spoken local dialects and Khmer. There had then been later on, million and million Buddhist multi-ethnic double/hybrid children all the way through hundred years of tranquility, so on and on. All original Hindu Sanskrit/Khmer had been old and sick, died and had continued to die everyday, then all had vanished away, leaving those million young descendent Khmer/multi-indigenous hybrid taken power transferred all over the country. This had caused belief disruption of Shiva God that had been entrenched with the king of king. They had spoken two or three languages, Siamese/Khmer, Yuon/Khmer, and Lao/Khmer. Those Buddhist hybrid provincial Kings and their warriors had not respected any order from central Sanskrit/Khmer king authorities. They had their own strategy against old Khmer-Motto left from their Sanskrit/Khmer ancestors. This language change had been due to their indigenous mothers, which had been their own care takers. Old Khmer nationalist slogan movement had only been liable for ancient Sanskrit/Khmer kings and warriors, but several hundred years later, this same Khmer Motto movement, had turned to be notorious killers on their hybrid bi-products they had themselves created. There had been revolt from Siamese/Khmer hybrid kings at the same time with Yuon/Khmer hybrid Kings in the South for claiming their independence. Civil wars had then broken out all over, then the Khmer Empire had collapsed causing large disintegration parts, nominated as Siam, Laos and Kampuchea Krom (South-Vietnam), the rest of that has turned to be a small Cambodia today, in which 85% people are still Khmer speaking but they are also 90% diverse hybrid individuals, some speak Chinese, Vietnamese, Champ, and several other languages. Unfortunately this old Khmer Motto version is still proceeding without a reform for a new political platform with a real righteousness remedy to adapting the advancing social evolution. English word Cambodian is set to be represented all inhabitant of Cambodia, without discrimination of origin, but Khmer word is not properly translated English word Cambodian as it should be Chun-Kampuchea, but wrongly as Khmer man without understanding the importance relevance of formal name Kampuchea (Cambodia) for a united acceptance of diverse Cambodian in the whole Cambodian nation. In Khmer word: Cheat Kampuchea, Sangkum Kampuchea, and Chun-Kampuchea. Some prominent politicians are still wrongly using Khmer logo from Khmer Empire, that has had already disappeared, for their own political grain, likewise Cambodian Government today is still doing everything for keeping the same ancient Khmer culture model as Khmer arts, Khmer costume, Khmer way of live, Khmer way of belief and Khmer way of language for flattering Khmer self-proclaimed to boost Khmer nationalist sentiment and eventually for protecting and keeping their rich and high-classes for themselves, but for pour low-class to continue bowing before them, speaking with special Khmer language term toward them as the way for locking down disadvantage people. This is a temporary appearance strategy, lacking logical order, for their fraudulent political ambition serving this very ugly and shameful social stability in the face of world order impact. But please be in mind, that this horrible self-proclaimed highly valuable Khmer foundation culture and the so called wonder of Cambodia are facts of Cambodian government political motivation for pushing Khmer ancient glory and urging unaware Cambodian farmers and new young Cambodian generation to have fault impression and be appreciated them, likewise the king of king or in other wards the king of sub-kings had represented God Shiva. This is backward against integrated Cambodian. Good Cambodian government with all other prominent politicians, including the king, should be discussed with a wise perception and logical sense together, so that thousand years old Khmer political version could never be suitable for using on today social diverse and hybrid/Cambodian citizens. Please note that, one real fact can shake up hardliner, as the following there is high profile personality as evidence of social evolution example: We can say Norodom Sinanouk is former Khmer king with Monique Sihanouk as Queen. But she is Viet/Italian hybrid of none Khmer. King Norodom Sihakmoni is then Khmer/Viet/Italian double hybrid. He is Cambodian king in English is 100% right, in Khmer he is Moha-ksat Kampuchea, but not Moha-ksat Khmer as officially called wrongly in Khmer word every today As Khmer Empire had been fragmented into Lao, Siam, South-Vietnam and Cambodia, in which its diverse people has been changing. Government should have courage to change along with them, so that everything is politically going smoothly. Khmer separatist movements would then be disappeared. Good Cambodian government should understand and encourage consultations with outstanding advisers, domestic or foreigner as well, and start to do the right thing, and officially declaring that English word Cambodian does not mean in Khmer word Khmer/man, but Chun-Kampuchea as Cambodia’s inhabitants, in the logical sense for without discrimination of origin of birth. All Cambodian needs pragmatism now: 1- We the people of Cambodia are Cambodian citizens. 1- Cambodian government is from Cambodian for Cambodian. 2- The state is separated from all religion, which is belonging to the people. 3- King Sihamoni is Mohaksat Kampuchea, but not Mohaksat Khmer. 4- Everything must be namely related to Kampuchea (Cambodia) 5- Cheat-Kampuchea, Sangkum Kampuchea, Chun-Kampuchea. All Cambodian leaders and famous politicians alike have already been recognizing Cambodian history in the present and in the recent past. First as what was the cause of Khmer empire to have had broken down. Second what had caused Lon Nol regime to collapse. Third what Khmer Rouge regime (Pol-Pot) to have been toppled down so easily? The answer for those three consecutive past failures is the caused from one sole entity: “Khmer separatist Motto” left from Khmer empire fragmentation debris, which would provoke division among diverse Cambodia’s inhabitants, namely Cambodian in Khmer word “Chun- Kampuchea”. Political Khmer separatist Motto must stop now even we still speak Khmer, likewise American who speak English are not Briton. Look! When one starts to call Cambodia’s inhabitant Khmer, Vietnamese, Chinese and other minority appear on the country stage, which is a real show of social division. When we call them Chun-Kampuchea (Cambodian) national unity is instead coming up. Please be ware that national unity is based on fairness for every nationality in the country, but not based on historic glory of one society that had already been disintegrated and disappeared. We have Cambodia now but not Khmer Empire or simply in others words Khmerland anymore from the past. In 1969’s coup, Lon Nol’s soldiers had received a mistaken order to kill thousand Vietnamese, which have been living in the country for generation all over the country. They have blood relation among millions Cambodian civilians existing amid thousands Khmer speaking hybrid soldiers, police officers and governments officials as well. This was a devil Government that has adopted Khmer-ultra-nationalist, leading to a general social defiant; at the end they had surrendered to KR in 1975. Pot-Pot’s came to power in 1975 with communist policy but also with Khmer-ultra-nationalist again, leading to a general people hatred minded, but momentarily obedient appearance due to their easily killing of thousand Cambodian anytime they wanted. But in November 1979, rumors had came to people that Pol-Pot government hah lost control in eastern provinces to Vietnamese troupes and Phnom Penh had closed radio broadcast because their government team had secretly evacuated through rail transport to Western Cambodian/Thai border. All local KR village’s leaders in eastern, central and mid western, have panicked but hatred minded people trapped them and killed all of them, long before the arrival of Vietnamese military tanks and vehicles that have only been moving on national routes. As we have seen in every three historic periods of Khmer-ultra- nationalist failures in the name of Khmer culture foundation heritage self-evaluated as superior than other, will probably be slowly extinguished with no way to stop its, in the face of universal impact, actually coming into Cambodia under the name of ASEAN’s policy, World Bank experts, IMF, NGO and UN’s rules as well. Young Cambodian generation have naturally mindset for willing to get something new, as other nationals people around the world routinely do. This is a natural human rights, that no one can stop its. Youngsters says yes Sir, or yes Madam, before hardliner advisers, but their mindsets always secretly lead them to something new, from the changing world though Education, TV, Internet, face book, switter, tourism and immigration. They read news, email and massage back and forth everything to each other and will probably become civilized and knowledgeable Cambodian citizen, aren’t they? When educated Cambodian youngsters turn back to see their own stagnated mother culture, they will feel too hard to understand and to accept; because holding the break on ethnic culture not to advance as it should be for too long, will probably create a big gap between local culture and global advancing impact. Please be understood that creating a big gap between local culture and universal change impact, will produce a complete dissolution of nationalism. And young Cambodian generation will slowly change then modify their minds for ever with no way to stop them by any mean except God. Look, this is what happening right now. Under the tremendous influence of World Bank and I M F, Cambodian Government needs to set a strong institutional infrastructure network for the country working with efficiency and also at the same time for replacing retired officials and a push for potential economic development. For accomplishing this entire task requirement, government needs urgent thousand new schools hundred new universities with international curriculum standard and English. So there are now younger college graduates each years coming up in the range of thousand and thousand and in millions in a few years ahead as the whole Cambodian young generations are flocking more and more for education. Those young and fresh Cambodian will probably change Cambodia to a full democratic state with no one could stop them. Please be understood that all electronic devises such as TV, Cell phone, internet, optic cable, I phone, I pod, Google, satellite TV, GMS, laser, and Nuclear fusion is going into reality in 2020, for sure. How Cambodia could resist English as a second language within the whole ASEAN. Good judgment isn’t it? Thank you very much, Neak Kampuchea. On Jul 9, 7:48 pm, Vonglokruta Khema <[email protected]> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6PGaFcElNU&feature=related > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Neak Kampuchea <[email protected]> > To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org<[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2011 11:40 PM > Subject: Re: Khmer culture > > KHMER origin of birth. > > Calling Khmer citizen in English , as Khmer is the official name of the > country, > But this is what we need now: > > 1-We the people of Cambodia are citizens Khmer > 2-The state of Cambodia is for KHMER NOT 4 YOUN. > > On Jul 9, 8:43 am, ឌើលុច្ស អៀម <[email protected]> wrote: > > This statement reflects the carving on the wall of Angkor Wat. > > > "Those who come to this land [srok Khmer], and accept the ancestors > > contributions and show gratitude to allegiance to this nation are part of > > the Khmer identity." > > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Chamnap Keo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Neak Kampuchea works really hard to push for this new word. If as you > > > say, > > > Cambodia has thousands of years of history, don't you think it's culture > > > and > > > people know who they are? > > > > What Neak Kampuchea does not tell us is that his campaign to put this new > > > word to forefront is not a result of Cambodians mis-classifying themselves > > > and confusion about their Khmer identity, but only that Khmer and the > > > demographic of today's Cambodia is changing to accompanied for the masses > > > of millions of legal and illegal Youns who come to live in Cambodia. We > > > know > > > that, Youn have live en mass with in Cambodia and spread like wildfire, > > > however, we are not confused about this "self-proclaim" Khmer identity. It > > > has been this way for over a thousand years, and the fact that it needs to > > > be change now does not reflect a mistake, but as I say, rather an > > > unfortunate change and trend in the reality of Vietnamese and Sino > > > dominated > > > Khmer land, or as we always say in Khmer, "Srok Khmer". > > > > What is wrong with using Khmer as an all encompassing group identity? What > > > is wrong with using this word as we have always use for over > > > a millennium now? This word Khmer on contrary, does not exclude people out > > > of Cambodia, it includes and builds solidarity in "Srok Khmer", even the > > > Sino Khmers had come to refer to themselves as "we Khmers". This is a > > > term, > > > under an umbrella, of a over 2 thousand years of history of unity, and it > > > strengthens the continuation of the cultures of our forefathers who have > > > bestowed it onto us, in this land. Those who come to this land, and accept > > > the ancestors contributions and show gratitude to allegiance to this > > > nation > > > are part of the Khmer identity. > > > > Those who wish to exclude themselves, and self-identify otherwise for > > > other > > > political purpose, no matter under what guise, what propanda, what > > > message, > > > or persuasion, is neither Cambodian nor Khmer - but betrayals who have > > > infiltrated the nation and wishes to destroy it from the inside out. > > > > Thailand is neither a country of the Tais nor is the TAI a homogenous > > > ethnic identity, yet "Thai" comes to be the core identifying feature of > > > that > > > country and unity for many people who are not even Tai. And Thai identity > > > is > > > brief compared to the Khmer identity, so it should be that the Khmer > > > identity should wrap an even stronger solidarity and unity among all > > > people > > > of Cambodia - because this is the word that connects this land to its > > > ancient heritage and the word that will continuate to prerseve > > > and perpetuation the survival of that heritage. Those who enter wishing to > > > destroy this heritage can be can neither Cambodia, Chun Kampuchea or Khmer > > > and should forever be outcast as foreigners bent on the destruction and > > > domination of Khmer nation. Period. > > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Neak Kampuchea > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Khmer culture heritage Foundation itself has been creating Khmer > > >> extremism, corruption with impunity, thousand years before Mr. Hen > > >> Sen’s birth date. > > > >> Please be understood that Cambodian is not a race’s name as certain > > >> individual of Khmer self-proclaimed have believed. One should thinks > > >> that this English word Cambodian meaning is not the same as Khmer > > >> language meaning, which has not been adjusted for decades along social > > >> evolution or in others words along with multi-ethnic integration. > > >> Cambodian should be called in Khmer word “Chun-Kampuchea” but not > > >> Khmer. > > > >> Every English word we speak has been updated. So please be careful to > > >> catch-up this English word “Cambodian”, which is designated for > > >> calling all inhabitants within Cambodia’s territories without > > >> discriminating of origins of birth, belief, and political tendency. > > >> Please keep in mind that Cambodian does not exceed to be illegally > > >> added Khmer ethnic of Vietnam or Khmer ethnic of Thailand. Cambodian > > >> word is solely nominated for people within Cambodia’s legal boundary. > > > >> All those Khmer language confusions has been due to the lack of Khmer > > >> language institute existence, which would be updating Khmer language > > >> along Cambodian social evolution, during the past hundred years to > > >> present days. > > > >> Look these Khmer words that are saying Preah Vehear and Angkor temples > > >> are Khmer culture. But in English the whole meaning is this: Preah > > >> Vihear and Angkor temple are Khmer Heritage culture, but not our > > >> actual Khmer culture, which has been changed so far into Cambodian > > >> culture. > > > >> Some young Cambodian women today are wearing sun glasses with short > > >> dresses and skirts, men are with suites and ties with western style > > >> shoes, living in concrete and brick building or houses. Everyone eat > > >> food on the table with fork and spoon. We dance we listen moderns > > >> music and songs. > > > >> All of what we are doing today is called Cambodian culture. But we are > > >> not anymore in Khmer ancient culture, for which there is now a > > >> repeated glorifying games, which are heard for political interest of > > >> special individual gain in this Khmer lacking logical order language > > >> (perplexity language). > > > >> The actual Cambodian constitution, its self, is conflicting with > > >> Universal democracy principal, and has truly been creating Khmer > > >> extremist movement, culture of corruption and impunity due to Khmer > > >> extreme religious nationalism with misunderstanding of Cambodia’s > > >> continual social evolution, which would, no doubt, be one day backlash > > >> for people equal rights, freedom of expression with identical life of > > >> human dignity, freedom of assembly, freedom of belief, freedom of > > >> movement, freedom of receiving information. > > > >> Look, Cambodia (Kampuchea) is the official name of the country; its > > >> inhabitants should be called Cambodian, (Chun-Kampuchea). It is none > > >> relevance or in other words none sense for calling Khmer, that had > > >> been nominated in ancient time for calling Khmer people in Khmer > > >> Empire, which had already been fragmented into Cambodia, Thailand, > > >> South Vietnam. This is the reason why there are Thai-Khmer, Cambodian- > > >> Khmer, Vietnam-Khmer. For now we have Cambodia, its people should be > > >> Cambodian. And Cambodian in Khmer word is “Chun-Kampuchea” or simply > > >> “Kampuchean” (Kampujean). > > > >> Pease examine Sam Rainsy’s party and Rong Chhun’s teacher union > > >> leader; they do politics in the name of Khmer in the flaw > > >> constitution, in which has some English words mistranslated as We the > > >> people of Cambodia are Khmer citizen in place of Cambodian citizen, > > >> These two men, their teams including Ms.Musochea have never called > > >> Cambodian people in Khmer word Chun-Kampuchea as Mr. Hun Sen did. > > > >> This is the reason why there is extremist Khmer movement that has been > > >> pushing thousand and thousand Khmer Krom of Vietnam and Khmer Surin of > > >> Thailand for coming to Phnom Penh for claiming their Khmer > > >> citizenship, because they said they are also Khmer like the others in > > >> the country. No doubt, there is a strong support from SRP and Union > > >> leader Rong Chhun for their political gain, but their logical sense is > > >> lacking. > > > >> This potential problem will last, and has extended to make Cambodian > > >> instability threat, until some day Cambodian Government will > > >> understand and decide a decisive reform those malicious constitutional > > >> clauses, in which there is an universal democracy principal flaw. > > >> . > > >> Mr. Hen Sen knows all of that, but he thinks this is not the time yet, > > >> until next young Cambodian generations will become more educated in > > >> the Cambodian majority as needed. For now, his government has enough > > >> power to unconstitutionally order for doing anything and calling all > > >> Cambodian in Khmer word”Chun-Kampuchea” for teaching unaware people > > >> ahead of the time as needed, and also expressing a willingness for > > >> avoiding discrimination of origin of birth for all inhabitants in > > >> Cambodia in the face of UN human right, NGO groups, domestic and > > >> oversea Cambodian as well. This is what, CPP is doing about. > > > >> We the people of Cambodia need Constitutional reform for replacing > > >> fault version > > >> “Khmer citizen” by a true description” Cambodian citizen” for pursuing > > >> to the countries name Cambodia in relevance to the name of its people > > >> Cambodian. > > > >> 1-We the people of Cambodia are “Cambodian citizens”. > > >> 2-The government of Cambodia is from Cambodian for Cambodian. > > >> 3-The state is separated from religion that is exclusively belonging > > >> to the people > > >> 4-Cambodian government should be Secular. (Neutral is among different > > >> religions). > > > >> If religion continues to belong to the state, Cambodia could never be > > >> able to alleviate poverty and corruption, which has been hiding behind > > >> the power of > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
