This totally makes sense, especially given the fact that many components don't make that distinction.

I created camel-316 https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-316

Cheers
hadrian

On Feb 1, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Hiram Chirino wrote:

I personally would like to get rid of the Fault message.  It should be
possible ti interpret the output message as a Fault or interpret  an
Exception as Fault.  Having an exception, a fault, and an output
message be all valid outputs of a processor makes creating a DSL to
handle all those cases MUCH more complex.

Just my 2 cents.

Regards,
Hiram

On Jan 31, 2008 1:18 PM, Roman Kalukiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
2008/1/31, Hadrian Zbarcea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Actually to Guillaume's point, I am strongly in favor of keeping the
input.  And to be honest, I like the model the way it is, for many
reasons. One is that the model is very intuitive for people familiar
with certain standards, myself included, and the emtpy chairs don't
bother me. If I understand correctly you are not claiming that there
are features that the current model (vs yours) cannot support, just
that your proposal will make it clearer.

That is right. I believe that current model could be harder to
implement all different scenarios, that we don't have to think about
in mine, but everything could be done in the current one (with 3
messages available you can for sure implement everything that can be
done with 1, right? ;) ). I even believe that I was able to show, that
my solution also can handle all features we need.

Well, de gustibus non est disputandum.  If you really feel strongly
about that, a vote is the way to settle it :).

This is what I say from the very beginning. I was simply curious if my
impressions are common. But the fact is, that if I want camel to
change in this direction, I need creators of camel to be convinced to
this direction and I cannot do it alone (or I have to think about my
own one-message-branch ;) ). It looks that you are not really
convinced  ;)

Anyway thank you for all your feedback
Roman




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