Yeah, I have seen an article (BJP?) in which they used a scanner and 
built the camera around it (no glass in scanner, portable AC power inverter)
the thing that made it neat was that the background that didn't move was 
rather sharp, but people or objects could move, and as they did so, they 
became oddly stretched and distorted. Main problem was large file sizes 
on portable computer of those times (4-5 years ago?). With used page 
sized scanners running $25 and up in surplus, this could be an easy way 
to go digital as well. The nice thing about view cameras is you can 
offset the ground glass etc. as needed so the "scanner back" is in exact 
focus (a problem with thick CCD/CMOS sensors and 35mm and MF cameras). 
This might be a good project for a TLR style camera- LF scanner and second
viewing and focusing section, simply use two lenses? Gowlandflex style?

re: Box camera
many box cameras use a meniscus lens (( - few cheapys had multiple 
elements, most only worked decently due to small aperture (f/11 typical) and
limited degrees of enlargement used. Popular Photography had an article 
comparing old box camera with new points and shoots, which had better 
lenses but smaller formats etc. 

RE: double box camera 

personally, I would suggest building a lens test "Double Box Camera" ;-) I
use a real box in which the rear has been cutout and replaced by a spare
4x5" ground glass taped in place, inside blackened with black paint and
the front has a hole and you mount test lens on a rigid cardboard and vary
the spacing by moving the box pieces up and down to focus and to test the
lens coverage. This is handy in lens hacking, and yields some surprising
discoveries (like the cheapy panoramic camera 24mm or so lenses in the
$12.95 throwaways will cover more than 35mm ;-) 

You can use a 4x5 or other bellows mount camera if you prefer, but many
view camera bellows won't let you get close to the narrow widths needed to
test 35mm and similar lenses for coverage. Since coverage is never spec'd
on 35mm lenses (or med fmt), you may discover that some lenses such as the
Koni Omega 58mm not only cover 6x7 but up to 6x9cm, making them a super
cheap very wide angle lens for lens hacking etc. Some cheapy Tmount lenses
set at 55mm lens registration distances (rather than 40-45mm of most 35mm
SLRs) also have suprisingly good coverage, esp. the long telephotos etc.
naturally, substituting a film holder or film version instead of the
ground glass would be a neat way to test out lens coverage on film ;-)


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