Robert,

Excellent, useful info.  Thanks very much.

Gene

Robert Mueller wrote:
> 
> The method you first describe should be fine but you should be sure the
> lens is focused for infinity:  in that case the light exiting from the lens
> is a parallel beam and the distance from lens to screen is unimportant.
> 
> A pretty much equivalent method is to place a ruler in front of the lens
> (ideally a transparent one) and measure the apparent diameter of the
> opening when looking from as far away as possible while still being able to
> read the ruler markings (you could use binoculars, but that is a bit of
> overkill.)
> 
> With the light meter you do have the problem of establishing a
> calibration.  If you know the F# at the largest opening you can just scale
> the values for the other openings according to the light meter
> readings.  One way to get a reference is to use a calibrated aperture, like
> a hole of known diameter and placed at a known distance from the
> meter.  This system has an F# equal to the usual value, (focal length) /
> (diameter).   I would tend to use a small source for this task, a bright
> light bulb, far, far away, for example.  Then place your  lens to be
> calibrated in place of the hole but with the spacing from lens to meter or
> screen equal to what you need to focus objects at infinity  (You want to
> avoid that bellows correction otherwise required when doing close-ups.)
> 
> An easy way is to select a shutter time on the meter so the F# of your
> reference hole is what is shown by the meter for the selected speed.  Then
> just read off the F# of your lens.
> 
> You must take precautions so only light coming through the lens or standard
> hole illuminates the meter!
> 
> You are correct about the F# for an iris in front of the lens.  This is
> hardly an ideal arrangement, but if there is no alternative, go ahead and
> do it!
> Bob
> At 10:10 14.12.01 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hello Cameramakers annd Richard Knoppow,
> >
> >I have a 2 questions regarding establishing F-stops on a lens.  First,
> >I'm looking for suggestions on how to determine the stop settings on a
> >lens of known focal length, having an iris with no markings. This came
> >up a while back and Richard, I think I remember what you said which is
> >scary for me, but here goes.  I think I recall that the "compression"
> >effect of having the iris between the groups could be worked out by
> >putting a point source well behind the lens, and a groundglass as close
> >as possible to the front of the lens, then measuring the dimeter of the
> >illuminated circle on the groundglass.  Did I get that right?  In other
> >words, on a 160mm lens, a circle diameter of 10mm would indicate the f16
> >setting and so on.  I also remember less well some suggestions using
> >light meters.  I would appreciate comments on this problem.
> >
> >The second problem is a lens that has no iris at all, and no practical
> >way to install one.  I have a big iris that will fit on either the back
> >or the front of the lens.  I am pretty certain installing the iris this
> >way will cost me a lot of coverage, but on this lens I may have it to
> >spare.  Would the stops in that case be just the aperture divided by the
> >focal length?
> >
> >Gene Johnson
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