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turbo assembler - 3 new
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When i compile my code using masm i get the error "can not open the dos.h in 
the turboc3. What should i do to remove this error? ... -   Fri,  Sep 10 
2004 2:24 am
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static link a library - 3 new
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I am quite a beginner in C. I am writting an application on my debian linux 
computer that uses some imagemagick library functions. I can link them and 
compile (with cc) in my computer but when I move the binary to another 
computer it says: error while loading shared library: libWand.so.6: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory. I would like to avoid this
and (if possible ) have everything compiled into my binary. I think I have to 
link a static version of imagemagick library but I don't know how to do this. 
I... -   Fri,  Sep 10 2004 2:39 am
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C 99 compiler access - 23 new
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... You mean unlike the high-quality products of professionals like Microsoft?
Nobody "let" anyone design and construct either Unix or Windows stuff. Neither
were developed in dictatorships with mandatory quality control and laws 
prohibiting both sale and purchase of products without an official stamp of 
quality. ... -   Fri,  Sep 10 2004 2:51 am
23 messages, 14 authors
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Reading Simple Flatfiles with a COBOL Mindset - 9 new
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... Heh. C was designed by people who were damned glad they /weren't/ using 
punch cards. It was created at the same time (and by some of the same people) 
who were inventing the Unix operating system, a system that has never 
supported the punch card the way IBM OSes from (roughly) the same era did. (
Unix, and C, like teletypes and other character-oriented interactive input/
output methods.) Of course, C has grown up and left its single-OS roots 
behind, but it still makes certain assumptions about how programmers want to 
see the... -   Fri,  Sep 10 2004 3:12 am
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is this code safe? - 12 new
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... Probably not, but I dare say that if he does not fall in the category 
"undisciplined amateur", then he probably belongs to "not yet disciplined 
student taught by an undisciplined amateur or idiot". Richard ... -   Fri,  
Sep 10 2004 3:57 am
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define a data type of 1 bit size - 5 new
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if u really want to be economic with process's memory u can use for example 
a char (or int) and store in it up to 8 (or 32) one bit values ;) ... -   Fri,
  Sep 10 2004 6:05 am
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A way to maintain a global set in many files by using preprocessing directives
. Could we find a better method? - 2 new
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Hi, all. Recently, I find there is a way in our project to maintain a global 
set in many files by using preprocessing directives. I'm wondering if we could
find a better method for this. Many colors are referred in different 
subsystems in our projects. They are defined as enumeration constants and a 
single color must be the same value all across our projects. ... { yellow
= 0; red = 1; green = 2; blue = 3; pink = 4; white = 5; 
black = 6; brown = 7; cyan = 8; purple = 9; gray = 10;... -   
Fri,  Sep 10 2004 4:02 am
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Accessing result of assignment - 6 new
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... How about this: int c; memset(x, c = 0, sizeof x); ... -   Fri,  
Sep 10 2004 4:26 am
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Coding statements before declaration-a doubt on standard!!! - all new
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[snips] ... Actually, I really like this feature. While it does mean 
variable definitions are scattered about, it also means that they tend to be (
or at least, _should_ tend to be) more closely linked to the code that uses 
them: void func(void) { int i; /* 20 lines of code */ i = init(); use(
i); ... vs void func(void) { /* 20 lines of code */ int i = init(); use(i);
 ... Matter of preference, perhaps, and you can "fake it" using block scoping,
but I find this approach, on the whole, cleaner than the traditional C... -   
Fri,  Sep 10 2004 4:28 am
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Please find out what is wrong - 2 new
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... int array[] = {23,34,12,17,204,99,16}; int main(void) { int d; 
for(d = 0; d != TOTAL_ELEMENTS; d++) { ...... -   Fri,  Sep 10 2004 4:38 am
2 messages, 2 authors
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Postfix / Prefix Operators on array / pointer, search key word wanted [OT] - 4
new
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... You can apply the sizeof operator, the address operator, and in the case 
of initialization, the assignment operator. ... -   Fri,  Sep 10 2004 4:47 
am
4 messages, 3 authors
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two dimensional arrays passed to functions - all new
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 ... Do you have a fixed array or do you have dynamic allocations? I tend to
enclose the array and the number of elements in a struct and dynamically 
insert strings into the array. You can allocate 1d with the char buffer being 
fixed, i.e. 256, or you can allocate 2d. The 1d struct: struct STRINGARR { 
char (*String)[256]; size_t numelements; ... The 2d struct: struct 
STRINGARR { char **String; size_t numelements; ... The prototype for 
the insert function would be: char *insert(struct STRINGARR *array, const... -
  Fri,  Sep 10 2004 5:01 am
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parsing time string, getting timezone - all new
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... <snip code> ... first of all, thanks for your answer! tm_gmtoff is a BSD
& GNU extension, so definetly not ISO or POSIX C. Anyway. I've tried to use 
your recommendations for changing the function, but I cannot see how I should 
do it. Can you shed some light on how I should change this function to return
a string with the right timezone? Using tm_isdst I can see whether it's 
daylight savings time or not, but I wouldn't know how to use that information 
in the string.. I know, I should be able to figure this out... -   Fri,  
Sep 10 2004 5:24 am
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Does realloc "move" a block it shortens? - 6 new
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... Yes, for various reasons. ... So what, when correction is simple. ... 
char *ShortenStr(char *p) ... char *t; ... if (t = realloc(p, n+1)) 
t[n] = '\0'; return t; ... if (p = ShortenStr(p)) { ... ... However 
they are dangerous routines in that all strings handled must reside in 
malloced memory. ... -   Fri,  Sep 10 2004 5:43 am
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malloc and free - 5 new
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I have something near to this: unsigned *p, *a; p = malloc(80*sizeof(
unsigned)); a=p; if(p==0) exit(1); <code snip> /******************/ free(p); /
******************/ Is it possible there is segmentation fault where there is 
free(p);? Where is the error if 'p' is the same of 'a' (p==a) and never I had 
free (or realloc) p? How detect *where* I wrote the malloc's memory not in my 
space allocated? Thank you ... -   Fri,  Sep 10 2004 6:34 am
5 messages, 3 authors
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Difference between Structure & Union - 4 new
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Hi All, Can you give me the example code which explains difference between 
Structures and Union. As a newbie please do the needful. Thanks, csudha. ...
-   Fri,  Sep 10 2004 7:02 am
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Cracking C structure - all new
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 ... Not possible for what mechanism? You can't do it from "inside" a 
conventional C program. You *can* do it if you can process C programs like 
data. If you have what amounts to a compiler front end, you *can* loop thru 
struct contents; the deduction is trivial, the compiler stores the types of 
the data in its symbol table. The DMS Software Reengineering Toolkit offers a
full C parser front end with symbol table, and it could be use to "loop thru 
the structure" pretty easily. What is harder is that there is often an... -  
Fri,  Sep 10 2004 7:34 am
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Church's lambda calculus - 8 new
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Q1) Has anyone seen a treatment of Dr. Church's lambda calculus that uses C 
instead of an obscure language designed for logic? Q2) How does access the 
forum archives? MPJ ... -   Fri,  Sep 10 2004 8:38 am
8 messages, 6 authors
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Two Questions about "strlen", "strcat" and "strcpy" - 4 new
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... Well, that's your opinion and that's fine and all. I just don't see that 
it's really that big of a deal. What really happens in your example is a 
confusion based on the fact that the first argument passed to printf() is a 
pointer to an entity that is changed via side-effect in another argument. That
would happen with your strlcpy as well. The usual usage of the nested str* 
calls is something like this: size t len; char buff[40] = "Hello"; len = 
strlen(strcat(buff, " World!"); Brian Rodenborn ... -   Fri,  Sep 10 
2004 10:43 am
4 messages, 3 authors
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volatile expression - all new
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... Yes, it does. Section 6.4.6 is about "punctuators". The "other forms" 
clause refers to operators that don't have the form of a single punctuator, 
such as the sizeof, cast, and array indexing operators. You're right, the 
definition of "operator" in C99 6.4.6p2 is explicitly not exhaustive. That 
just means that there are other things that the standard explicitly refers to 
as operators. ... In "return v;", yes, v is an expression (or else the 
statement is illegal). It's obviously the intent of the standard that v, by...
 -   Fri,  Sep 10 2004 11:50 am
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Pointer arithmetic involving NULL pointers - 13 new
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Is adding 0 to a pointer to non-void that is equal to NULL legal? int *p=NULL;
 p+=0; ... -   Fri,  Sep 10 2004 12:13 pm
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parsing in C - 2 new
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there is a good variety of links across the web that talk about the subject. 
for exeample the famous master peace of Jack Crenshaw "Let's build a compiler 
is good one that every beginner should go through to have a good basic on 
expression evaluation (it talk in general about compiler writing). well in a 
nutshell to parse an algebrian expression there is at most two famous ways to 
proceed with : polish notation (know also as Infix notation) and its variant 
reverse polish notation (postifix) recursive descent.... -   Fri,  Sep 10 
2004 2:12 pm
2 messages, 2 authors
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integer array - all new
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... Not since I've learned how to avoid alignment problems with arrays. If 
you have char array[sizeof(int)]; then *(int *)array = 0; might give 
you an alignment problem. In terms of portable code, it's a definite alignment
problem. But, if you have int array_2[1]; then array_2[0] = 0; is 
fine. There is no padding between elements in an array. All of the elements in
an array are the same size. All of the elements in an array are contiguous. (
sizeof array / sizeof *array) equals the number of elements in array.... -   
Wed,  Sep 8 2004 1:55 pm
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simple word wrap problem not wrapping - all new
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... working on this. I saw your point though. ... except in cases that I 
test where I pipe the contents of a file to the program to avoid this 
translation. But you are right in that I'm not sure how to handle those tabs 
in this instance. ... Hadn't thought of that one. Thanks. ... correct me if 
I'm wrong and I probably am, but this statement is basically the same as 
buffer[i]='\n'; i=i+1; if it were buffer[i++]='\n'; I would see your point 
on this. Just what little reading I have done states that it evaluates right 
to left... -   Wed,  Sep 8 2004 3:03 pm
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+++i - 6 new
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... Ah. ... -   Wed,  Sep 8 2004 3:05 pm
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Newbie Question about #ifdef - all new
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... lseek and read are not part of the standard C library. They are provided 
as part of the Cygwin environment. What the code above is doing is checking 
to see if the symbol CYGWIN has been defined; if so, the text between the #
ifdef/#endif is compiled, otherwise it is omitted. IOW, if we're compiling 
for the Cygwin environment, the function pread() is defined as above. ... 
Java should already have equivalent functionality for lseek and read as part 
of its standard class library, IINM. Unfortunately all my... -   Wed,  Sep 
8 2004 3:30 pm
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C program to flowchart - all new
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VJ wrote: ... Search freshmeat.net for CodeViz. If you don't have linux it's
possible to set up a linux box, take the source there, generate the charts and
go view them on windows. Gerald ... -   Thurs,  Sep 9 2004 1:40 am
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creating a 2-d array using dynamic memory allocation - all new
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... Increased performance, reduced portability ... Casting malloc's return 
value is almost always silly (read the FAQ). ... You mean (int *)(int_matrix +
 width), ie. (int *)&int_matrix[width]. Your version would only work if 
sizeof(int *) == sizeof(int). For example, systems with 32-bit int and 64-bit
(int *) are not uncommon. ... If int is 64-bit with 64-bit alignment, and int*
 is 32-bit, and width is odd, then you get undefined behaviour. I'd suggest 
at least using 2 mallocs: one for the int * array and one for the ints.... -  
Wed,  Sep 8 2004 5:16 pm
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Creating a va_list - 2 new
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 void function( char *ptr, ... ) { va_list args; char format[81]; va_start( 
args, ptr ); vssprintf( format, ptr, args ); va_end( args ); ... the moral of 
the story is that ptr must be in a format for sprintf for example: "%d%c%s" 
etc. and format must be the length of the string that you expect. Marc Smith..
...Moonie -- Moonie ... ... -   Wed,  Sep 8 2004 5:26 pm
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[OT]Re: Different outputs in different environments. - 3 new
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... Waiter, what's this fly doing in my soup? ... -   Thurs,  Sep 9 2004 12:
08 pm
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Link compatibility among C compilers? - 9 new
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As I understand it there is a good amount of link compatibility among C 
compilers. For example, I can compile main.c with GCC and func.c with Sun One
and link the objects using either linker (GNU or Sun). What I'm curious about
is why this compatibility exists in the absence of a standard C ABI? What 
encourages C compiler vendors to agree on implementation issues such as 
alignment, packing, etc., such that their object files are compatible? I've 
heard it said that compiler vendors who don't want to re- implement the whole 
standard C library have... -   Thurs,  Sep 9 2004 12:15 pm
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removing Spaces - all new
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:15:03 +0100 ... Yes, that's better.... -   Thurs,  
Sep 9 2004 2:09 pm
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C Preprocessor - Cascaded Macros - 2 new
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I've been looking into cascaded macros and I can't seem to find if what I'm 
doing is portable. I want to do something like: ... so that the statement: {
 JOIN_LISTS(THREE_ONES,ONE_TWO_THREE) }, will expand (one the first 
preprocessor pass) to: { JOIN_LISTS_PROCESSED(1,1,1,1,2,3) }, then expand 
on the second pass to: { 1+1, 1+2, 1+3 }, On my compiler (DJGPP) it works 
just fine - but is it portable? Do all preprocessors use a similar 
replacement order? ... -   Thurs,  Sep 9 2004 4:08 pm
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Book Recommendations? - all new
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... I didn't say it could never be appropriate, I simply said I didn't see any
scenarios where it would be. I always develop for hosted platforms, not 
embedded, and I do not fully understand all of the implications of developing 
for embedded platforms. I realize my ignorance, and I wouldn't presume to make
such a baldfaced statement. ... And I was saying that I could not imagine 
being without malloc on any of the systems I design for. ... -   Thurs,  
Sep 9 2004 6:54 pm
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[OT} Function Call Tree Command in UNIX. - all new
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... Thanks a lot!!! - Vinay. ... -   Fri,  Sep 10 2004 9:07 pm
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Performance Programming - all new
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Hi all, I am switching from Java to C solely for performance, but I 
wonder are there any coding techniques that can boost performance in C? I am 
asking such an open-ended question to elicit response for me such as links and
discussion. By the way, I am also pretty headache with 
ArrayIndexOutOfBound exception, in which C or C++ never warn about anything 
reading uninitialized memory, can I make a trap at all memory dereferencing 
point, so that I can check if the piece of memory is valid, such as array 
indexing, or picking... -   Fri,  Sep 10 2004 9:32 pm
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Wide string initializer syntax - all new
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Looking through the C90 standard, it occurred to me that the possible 
syntaxes for initializers, particularly of wchar_t arrays, are really bizarre.
 Consider the following: ... That's four different types initialized with 
exactly the same initializer syntax, but it means four different things. In 
the first case, a mutable buffer is being initialized, and the standard lets 
you wrap the string intializing the buffer in braces for no apparent reason. 
In the second case, an array containing one pointer to a literal string ... - 
 Fri,  Sep 10 2004 10:11 pm
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Need help for optimising nested ifs-help me plz panic situation!!! - all new
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Dear all, Whats the common practice followed generally in the industry to 
avoid large number of "nested ifs" in a C code?I am currently working with a 
code which has a tremendous nests (in the order of around 25 or more!)and 
feeling really tough to maintain it.Also the code is for a application which 
has lots of dependecies. My application demands that the current output is 
dependent on previous output.Like this in my application I have now reached 25
dependencies in nests. Need valuable suggestions to overcome this... -   Sat,
 Sep 11 2004 12:22 am
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