Robert, David;
Robert is correct. Putting your coins on this internet is as safe as your bank putting your account, or the IRS, or Social Security, etc. storing your data. The web will be secured by Verisign plus our own security devices and software. While nothing in the world is unbreakable, we can make it probably more trouble that it is worth to break. Thanks Robert, you are correct in your comments. Robert, by the way, is a real guru in variety coins - he is one of the pioneers in the industry! Rgds Jan _____ From: robert wilharm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [COINS CLUB] Re: Update on BETA David I understand what you are saying but I feel that you do not have to worry about someone getting in to your computer. As I understand it the want list is placed into an internet pool with your code on it. Anybody can reach the pool but cannot go beyond that because they do not know where to go. The only information a third party has is a list of coins wanted and a code number that will tell you that someone has the coin on your want list. You then have to except that and from there you and the other party will exchange email to set up a deal. I believe the only safer machine is disconnected from the internet. I know Jan however I do not work for him or for NumisExpert and I have nothing to gain from this post except to see happy collectors. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "chargerdl1966" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:15 PM Subject: [COINS CLUB] Re: Update on BETA > > Jan, > > I am an infrequent poster to this forum, but I am concerned with > creating a venue whereby the world of coin collectors is connected > together in any way. I feel that the "want lists" should be > manually posted and there should be no electronic connection to > other collectors' listings. There is a very real possibility of > some underhanded dealings in the Internet world of shady > individuals, identity theft artists and cyber-thieves. I, for one, > will take no interest in any type of software that is installed on > my PC to allow interconnectivity with anyone else. I will not even > allow my sister, a computer programmer and systems expert, to > connect to my own machine over the Internet. I strongly urge other > collectors and coin lovers on this forum to consider the same > stance. I am not saying that your software is not a "good thing", I > am simply concerned about compromising my own system's security. > > David Lind > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Jan Schwenk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Further to my posting about our new Coin software system, I wanted > > to point out some of the design, features, and goals of the > > software. NumisEXPERT PRO3 is a completely new software system > > intended to build an integrated on-line community of everyone in > the > > coin collecting environment. Right now there are thousands of > stand- > > alone webs, and some networks that appeal to specific segments of > > the field, but there is none that encompasses everyone. Another > way > > of stating that is that we are "not all on the same page". We > are, > > so to speak, living in the Stone Age, a world of little villages, > > some connected by footpaths, some by canals, but most separated > from > > the others. Some may think this is to their advantage but we feel > > it is not good for the coin collecting community. We are not > aware > > of anyone trying to change this state of affairs, we believe that > > the coin collecting community will benefit mightily if it comes > into > > the modern age, and we are developing this software to effect that > > change. The software that we are inviting you to try is the first > > shot in this endeavor. > > > > The goal is to build an interactive environment that will help > > everyone in coin collecting. The collector is the basis, the > > foundation of coin collecting, so we will provide every tool and > > information so that he is fully knowledgeable. We will be > providing > > a price list addressing every U.S. coin since 1616, including > > varieties, errors and attributes, priced in every numerical > grade. > > This price list will be computed in real time daily from dealers' > > offers, flyers, catalogs, sales, auctions, webs and every source > we > > can find. The prices will be accurate and timely. As the system > > builds and gains more and more users, we will start to be able to > > provide empirically accurate data on populations, and market trend > > and demand. The system recognizes several different brands of > > albums, and many different ways of collecting coins, and can > analyze > > a collection and provide solid recommendations on how to improve > the > > collection, and for collectors to find and acquire coins to > improve > > their collections so they consistently increase in value (whether > or > > not the collectors want to sell their coins, ultimately an heir > > might want to or might need to). > > > > Want Lists that are automatically generated will be able to show > the > > collector every matching coin that is available by the various > > dealers and collectors throughout the system so he can make the > best > > buying decision. The system will support registry sets from > > recognized grading companies as well as less formal registry sets > > amongst the collectors. It will provide an accurate inventory > with > > enough accurate information to satisfy any requirement. While it > > currently supports only U.S. coins since 1616, we will be adding > > master databases for other countries, and other eras, again with > > comprehensive data and pricing. We expect to be adding features > for > > a long time to come. > > > > For the dealer, the system will automate all the time and labor > > consuming functions to make it cheaper, better and faster for > > dealers to sell coins and to give his customers the kind of > service > > they want. The system will track and analyze all the > dealers "buys" > > and "sells" to identify where he is getting the best return so he > > can maximize his business. The software will enable him to > provide > > custom service to all of his customers, to help they maximize > their > > collection. Dealer want lists will insure that he is making > > effective use of the available coins in the market to better serve > > his customers. The system automates appraisals for customers, > > liquidation of estates; registry set building and will be able to > > create auction catalogs, mailers, flyers, and direct personal > sales > > offers. There are many selling tools built in and more coming. > If > > a dealer so desired, he could list his entire inventory on CWL > > (www.coinweblisting.com), and Ebay, and Yahoo, and several other > > venues, still offer some of his inventory in his shop or office, > and > > offer other parts of it at shows and presentations. If a coin > sells > > in any venue, the others are immediately pulled down. This allows > > maximizing exposure and maximizing sales. Collectors that come to > > shows with their want lists on their WiFi pda will be led directly > > to the tables that have what they want. They will be able to buy > > (and pay for), with the click of a button, as they walk in the > door. > > > > Our price list will be initially weekly, and later in real time. > If > > a coin is going up in value, you inventory will automatically be > re- > > priced to the new price in real time. You will know the demand > for > > each coin, and will your inventory will automatically respond to > all > > want lists automatically and in real time (and those responses > will > > be updated as prices change). > > > > There are many more features that will be of help to you in > running > > your business. Rather than write a book here, please go to the > > Portal http://www.numisexpert.com/NEDealerWebHome/default.aspx > and > > click on the link New User? Sign Up Now to register for the new > > software. Even if you have been using prior versions of our > > software, this is completely new, much more advanced software and > > you need to sign in as a new user for the BETA. If you are > running > > a prior version, we will provide you a migration path for your > data > > at the end of the BETA. > > > > Sorry, I should have pointed this out in the original message. > You > > will remain registered in the original software, AND you will be > > registered in the new software. > > > > If you have any questions, comments, suggestions, ideas on how to > > improve the software, or complaints, please send them to me at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Thanks! > > Jan > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coinsclub/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > Yahoo! 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