Hi Chad, Seth, Janet, YYK, Jonathan, cordial thanks for your responses.
I have found for me good ideas and thoughts in your emails, which also in no way scared my work for international humane campaigns. I like the words from Seth for such a plattform: "openness, fairness and non-exclusivity" and YYK`s paragraph about a "rule of order" like in some parliaments. I like Jantes hopefully words, "that the parties are an artefact of a different model of working" and I like Chads paragraph: "We can't pre-judge people or ideas. All are welcome. What we need are solid policies that will allow us to defend ourselves against destructive measures that come aganist us. There's a policy that MorePerfect.org has implemented that works very well. They call it Constructive, not Destructive." --- I personally think we could find a good way beyond the single languages, if we would continue this collaboration now and make a summarization after every week in all language sites, because without summarization we must start always new. So I would propose to make on every language site a central topic, which pooling the actual state of the international Campaign Wikia affairs, but which declare also, that nothing is finalize and all ideas welcome. So every people (also with less time) can see, where we are and can bring in good ideas. Many people have not the time to read all forums, Wikia topics, list emails etc. Me too. I mostly need summaries, because I work on several int. projects at the same time. I have also think about your emails and I have personally make a retrograde step from my last email, but I can "unfortunately" not complete ignore my work for humane world campaigns. And I think it would be also very sad and no good signal, if I should do. :) I would like if we could try now together to find first guidingprinciples for a mission statement, also if this will be not the final version, but that we create together a first document we can work with language overlapping. Would you think this is possible? --- Here my new input for such a basic topic. Unfortunately I have now not the time to revise, because I must go sleep now. It`s 2.30 a.m. If I write "we should" in my emails, I mean always: it would be good from my actual personal view and my background of supporting 10 years int. campaigns for humanity. Its not egoism, its only my power and my conviction with which I work. My energy is "unfortunately" strong and insightful at the same time. :) Ingmar Redel --- 1. old modell of parties - new way of Wikia --- Is it possible to reach a int. agreement on fundamentals about this topic? The old modell of parties is coined from "TV politic" without collaboration with the people. This modell is mostly controlled by money and power interests (lobby work) and personal career interests, its not controlled by the people. The only people can do at this time: make a cross on the ballots every three, four or five years. Informations from parties about important themes are mostly shrouded with trained rhetoric and image strategies, to win the next election. The most people are disappointed from all parties. I dont know who healthfully mind it say, but I thinks its right: "Its a different between a statesman and a politican. A politican think of the next election, a statesman think of the next generation." So we should not only copying this old modell of parties from the "TV politic" to a "internet politic". This would nothing makes better. I think we could conform, that we want to be a neutral position, which delete all rhetoric and image strategies or lobby works, so that we get together in the internatioanal Campaigns Wikia network the unvarnished informations parties, candidates or campaigns and try to get in a open dialoge with politicans. Then the people can inform themselves realy and can start campaigns for a topic, if they have better ideas and want to make things better like the parties or candidates. For this the people can use than the int. structure of Campaigns Wikia. --- 2. the freedom of speech and lunatic fringe --- Is it possible to reach also here a int. agreement on fundamentals about this topic? I think we could conform, that Campaigns Wikia is definitive for the freedom of speech? But we should found also a rule against lunatic fringe. I`m sure you know as example the history of germany. We are here very sensitive opposite some people. Very sensitive. And we know what if such people penetrate our society and we know how disturbing they act on the society. In some sections of germany we have a real problem. The total freedom of speech can also bring bad things. So we should find after point nr. 1 also a rule, which decline informations, which are visible from lunatic fringe. The most polities prohibit such informations from lunatic fringe and we would be well advised to do this too - or we will become later great problems with groups of such people. If they have once a step in the door, we will never get rid of. Such people understand no fun. --- 3. new ethic in political affairs --- This is a milder point as my last email. I understand, that we can not say that humanity should be the aim of all political affairs (unfortunately; also if this should be), but we should admit and work for a new ethic in political affairs. Some points which fall in this category are also named in the first point: - clean political informations from money and power interests (lobby work), personal career interests, trained rhetoric and image strategies to geth the clean statement and the clean aim of a candidate, partie or campaign - giving the people the chance to work with this informations to give the right people the voice or giving the people the chance to make things better together with own proposals or campaigns But we should also help to change the old political thoughts in parties with a new political ethic. We should not ignore thousands of people, which try since many years with hard work to give political affairs a ethical base to conquer the burning problems for our future as humankind. Thats many older statesmans like Michael Gorbatschow or people like Kofi Annan, thats hundreds of known intellectuals, artists, entrepreneurs, clergymans, scientists, politicans, moderators and journalists from all over the world and from all parties. Thats prominent organisations or campaigns like the UN Millennium Campaign, Make Poverty History, Global Marshall Plan Initiative, Earth-Charta, World Wisdom Council, Parliament of the World Religions, World Future Council Initiative, Global Ethic Foundation, Club of Rome, Club of Budapest, Association of World Citizens, Committee for a Democratic UN, GOI Peace Foundation, International Simultaneous Policy Organisation, Inter Action Council... Campaigns Wikia should support this aim, to get a ethical base for political affairs for the future of the humankind and our planet. Campaigns Wikia should not say: "We are ethical neutral and we have not to do with this evolution." Campaigns Wikia enters no new space and it could understand wrong from such impressive people and projects, if Campaigns Wikia would as new project in this room ignore this important work from the above projects and organisations for the evolution, which is in full swing. _______________________________________________ Campaigns-l mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/campaigns-l
