Seafood Restarants that want to sound fancy use the word Quay in 
there names...as in "Quay 54"


-- In [email protected], Adrian Stott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "trainfinder22"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >  We dont have anything that big out here on the canal...
> >  Piers refer to long narrow docks that extend out to the water 
on the 
> >great lakes...We never use the word Wharf on Fresh Water..
> >
> >  We have Marinas and Boat centers and we have ports...
> >  Oddly even places that are a hundred miles inland have port in 
there 
> >name like Willamsport PA
> 
> The OED says a wharf is where a ship can moor to load and unload.  
The
> word "ship" comes from the Dutch "schip" AIUI ("skipper", meaning 
the
> person in charge of, er, a ship, comes from the same root).  My 
barge
> is Dutch, and such vessels are definitely called "schips" by the
> Dutch.  So, I think a wharf is somewhere a barge can moor for 
loading.
> 
> OTH "dock" is an enclosed are of water of a port for loading etc.  
> 
> A pier is not a dock.  It is a fixed structure extending from the
> shore into the water (OED says "sea" specifically, but I have often
> heard the term applied to such structures in fresh water)), often 
for
> the mooring of vessels.  There is a famous one in England - Wigan 
Pier
> (on the Leeds & Liverpool canal), although it wasn't much of a 
pier.
> 
> In Canada, piers on the sea and major lakes which are built and
> maintained by the federal government are to as "wharves" by the 
feds.
> The manager of such a wharf still carries the correct, but too
> seldom-used nowadays, title of "wharfinger".  
> 
> Mike mentioned Cambrian Wharf in Birmingham.  Also in Brum there 
are
> several facilities known for hundreds of years as ports, e.g. 
Hockley
> Port.  
> 
> Of course, you have Lockport, definitely a canal place.
> 
> I dislike the use of "marina" to describe an inland facility, as 
to me
> the word is derived from "marine", meaning "of the sea".  I prefer 
the
> inland version to be called a port.  
> 
> I think "quay" was never used for a waterway facillity.  In 
Britain,
> it seems to have appeared only to refer to sanitised docks, e.g.
> "Surrey Quays" for the infilled, shallowed, built over, and 
generally
> sadly ruined Surrey Docks.
> 
> Adrian
> 
> 
> 
> Adrian Stott
> 07956-299966
>


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