Adrian added: 
> Yeah.  First read in installments to me (and the others in the newby
> class) before bedtime by the matron in my first term at boarding
> school.  The only good thing about her, as I recall.

Hhmm, boarding school eh, may explain quite a lot. ;-)))))
Bit of a harridan, was she?

> "Better drowned than duffers".
Yep, you definitely know the books, well the first one for sure.


> Could apply to some ministers (too), I think.
I'll certainly agree with you on that if we can delete the last two 
words of the phrase! It's just so much more positive and immediate, 
don't you think?!!! ;-)))
I can think of two, particularly, that are prime candidates! No, hang 
on, err three, no four, wait a minute, five............(insert your own 
number as required) ;-)
Roger

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