Adrian Stott wrote:
> Will Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Adrian Stott wrote:
> 

>> That applies to mooring on any part of the waterway. Especially 
>> at busy moorings where boats breast up and where two boats going
>> in opposite directions cannot pass because of limited width.
> 
> I know some places where it is hard to a single craft to get through
> without touching craft inappropriately moored craft on both sides.

Exactly. And wide beam boats make that a more common circumstance
and so, IMO, a wide boat should pay for the inconvenience caused.

>> It is not only about locking. It is about getting through bridge
>> holes, passing in narrower stretches of waterway. Just like a 
>> wide-load on the road, special care needs to be taken passing
>> wider boats.
> 
> Since most of almost every waterway was built to allow two gauge-beam
> craft to pass, and since very few bridges were designed to craft to
> pass in them, I think it actually is, effectively, only about locking.
> 
It isn't about numbers. Otherwise you could just say there aren't
many wide-beamed boats, just ignore them. The point is that one 
wide beam boat effects the passage of every other boat on the 
same waterway.

>>> However, BW has calculated that the
>>> marginal cost of of any vessel navigating a waterway is so small that
>>> it is not worth charging for, so the difference between "so small" and
>>> "half so small" is not significant enough to reflect in the charges.  
>>>
>> You keep saying that. Could you please provide a reference/quote?
> 
> There was a statement to this effect made by BW during a consultation
> meeting on the 2002 charges review.  Perhaps you should ask Ms Ash for
> a copy of the paper.
>

Sorry Adrian. It is you that keeps quoting this 'fact' so it is 
up to you to supply the reference or stop quoting it.

>>> The same arguments apply to length as to beam.  So there is no logical
>>> argument for the current BW practice of levying a higher navigation
>>> charge on a longer boat than on a smaller one.    
>> Oh, really? And have you made that case to BW? And if that is so, 
>> do you claim that BW have calculated this to be so?
> 
> I quote from "Reviews of Craft Licensing -- Final Report and
> Conclusions", BW 2003 January, page 3.
> 
> "We concluded that  ... in principle the rationale for charging (by)
> length was not particularly strong"
> 
Thanks for that. It looks interesting (though on an initial scan I
couldn't see he quote) - I'll read it carefully later.


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Will Chapman
Save Our Waterways
www.SaveOurWaterways.org.uk

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