--- In [email protected], Baz Juniper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On 31 Mar 2008, at 09:20, David Sullivan wrote:
> 
> > We like tying to piling, too. However, our piling hooks are
> > decidedly benter now than when we bought them due to boats
> > zooming past (and we always tie up very very tight).
> 
> We bought our first piling hooks last year - there is not much 
armco  
> on the K&A where we our boat lives.  The very first time we used 
them  
> some youths in a large cruiser zoomed past in the gloaming and 
bent  
> one of the hooks and the piling.  Kids, eh?  Still, I'd finished 
my  
> soup by then.

On 31 Mar 2008, at 19:08, Roger Millin wrote:

> Personally I always try to find the closest aperture to the ground
> anchor rod and buried piling plate, if at all possible, as that has
> two advantages:
> 1. The load is distributed well back from the edge of the piling as
> the tie rod is designed to restrain the outward movement of the
> piling, far more load than my boat can impose on the structure.
> 2. The armco linking beam won't get opened up from the piling sheet
> by the pull of the piling hook as it is firmly linked to the piling
> at that point. This prevents the need to have to get the lump hammer
> out in the morning to free your piling hook from its jammed location
> between the two.
>
Don't spoil it Roger - you're bringing a note of experience and common
sense to this parade of dogmatic laying down of the law!

It's no fun when you do that ;-}}}}
––
All the best



From: "Peter Stockdale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [canals-list] Re: Experience with new boaters
Date: 31 March 2008 21:37

On 31 Mar 2008, at 19:08, Roger Millin wrote:

> Personally I always try to find the closest aperture to the ground
> anchor rod and buried piling plate, if at all possible, as that has
> two advantages:
> 1. The load is distributed well back from the edge of the piling as
> the tie rod is designed to restrain the outward movement of the
> piling, far more load than my boat can impose on the structure.
> 2. The armco linking beam won't get opened up from the piling sheet
> by the pull of the piling hook as it is firmly linked to the piling
> at that point. This prevents the need to have to get the lump hammer
> out in the morning to free your piling hook from its jammed location
> between the two.
>
Don't spoil it Roger - you're bringing a note of experience and common
sense to this parade of dogmatic laying down of the law!

It's no fun when you do that ;-}}}}
––

I am another one with Adrian on this.

The armco (or its predecessor "legco" as at Nanneys bridge) is 
designed as 
bank protection only.
My moorers are urged not to use the bank protection for securing 
their 
boats.
I have seen several examples of damage to the protection or castings  
adrift
where it has been used to secure their boats with ropes, chains, 
springs or 
hooks.

I feel that it should be an established courtesy to slow down for 
moored 
craft,
where probable discomfort or exposure to danger  could be caused by 
not so 
doing.

Moored boats should  be secured in a manner that will not cause 
damage to 
the waterway,
should  a non courteous boat speed  by.

Pete
www.thecanalshop.com




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