On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Peter Stockdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Andrew Dyke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well I have no way of knowing, I was given those figures by the EA
> man, who
>
> Yup - I would think a more accurate figure would have been 20 - 25mph.
> Absolute tops.
>
> In order to get higher figures the gradient on the river would have
> had to be of "Rapids" proportions !
>
> I have the dubious benefit of having navigated  the Avon in flood
> conditions.
>
> "Dont bother with the lock, boys" (D.H. -- 197X)

I always find it amusing when people come up with out of the air
figures like this. Water has some sort of magical appearence that
always makes it look faster than it really is - would you go at 4mph
on a road all day and think it was fast?

...and there-in lies the rub. On a large river while making good
process, by using the window frame or a hand, block out all land
leaving just the water in view. Now how fast do you think you are
going? It seems faster, no? In fact, and I know from experience, a
large volume of water travelling at only 4 mph looks like its going a
lot faster, and while it takes a long while to get anywhere when you
are pushing it (or it's seems like you are flying when going with it)
it is pushable by most narrowboats.

Of course I can only go by the water flow at Pershore during the main
part of the flood, though we saw most of the river at more than 6
inches in the yellow. By my reckoning (and I'll have to check the
video) I would say the flow just above the lock (where it narrows for
the mill weir stream) was never running at more than 8 mph, and
probably a lot less (6 or so mph). In fact as the levels were nearing
normal seemed to be when it was flowing at it's fastest pace as the
water was channelled into a smaller space.

The lock keeper at Pershore told us "horror" stories of how at a up
coming big bend in the river the water was flowing at 40 mph, later
this dropped to 20 mph, and it must have been obvious to him we know
more about water and river than he because he changed the subject very
quickly. In fact just below the bend was the fastest flow as the silt
washed from the corner settled and caused a shoal.

I can't find any useful figures at the moment to calculator water flow
rates for a particular height difference to back my claims - there
must be some out there?, but don't over estimate the speed of water
just as you should never UNDERestimate the POWER of water.


Cheers,

Mike


-- 
Michael Askin
http://shoestring_DOT_zapto_DOT_org/

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