--- In [email protected], colin wareing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> At the risk of starting over again I've today sent the following 
into Simon Salem at B.W.
> Any comments?
>  
> "Response to British Waterways Licence fees consultation 2008.
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>  
> Whilst understanding the need for B.W. to increase the revenue 
income I feel that the proposed increases are excessive in the light 
of inflation running at present at around 5%, however, if any of the 
four options have to be implemented then option one, no change.
>  
> I support the option one for change on 2009 licence fee as the 
fairest option to all boat owners, i.e. No change to the way that all 
private owners are charged.
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> My reason for supporting this option is that when someone decides 
to become a boat owner they/we/I accept that the licence fee is a 
licence to navigate. They/we/I should also be aware  of the 
limitations they/we/I put upon themselves by choosing the type, size, 
and amount of use they/we/I are going to make of their/ours/my chosen 
vessel. They/we/I were happy to accept these self imposed limitations 
when they/we/I bought the licence from British Waterways, and so to 
retain this fairness to navigate when and where a boat owner wants 
within their/ours/my  own self imposed imitations should be retained 
without any extra charge. 
>  
> Anything else is going to be unfair to some one. We all knew what 
we where getting into, or If you didn’t why didn’t you do your 
research? 
>  
> Listening and reading the arguments a number of points jump out at 
me.
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> The perceived problem of “continuous moorers” from the evidence 
I haven’t seen seems to be just that, a perceived problem. Indeed I 
cannot find any actual facts and figures to prove there is a problem, 
it all seems to be “feelings” and anecdotal evidence. Indeed with 
B.W. stating that overstaying on moorings “enforcement effort is 
not financially productive” I assume that they have no solid 
evidence of this problem.
>  
> The only way to get this evidence would seem to be enforcement, 
which if carried out would provide this evidence and perhaps help to 
discourage continuous mooring within it’s self.
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> As part of enforcement B.W. have got to work towards every boat 
displaying a licence to navigate and a mooring permit that displays 
the boats home mooring.
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> If B.W. are not going to enforce the already existing mooring 
limits I hope they’ll not spend any more money on replacing, 
maintaining or installing any more signage.
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> Surely the “willingness to pay”, (3.1 in the B.W. consultation 
document) argument falls down when everyone that pays for a mooring 
shows more “willingness to pay” than some one who don’t, and 
those that choose to pay a higher amount for their mooring are 
“willing to pay” a higher amount, as they already do.
>  
> I feel that if the extra £150 charge was introduced for boats that 
don’t declare a mooring it would bring in to question the right to 
navigate that the present licence is valid for. I would agree with 
point 9.15 of the BWAF report that people may pay the extra £150 in 
place of a mooring fee, and knowing B.W are not going to enforce 
overstaying on moorings may well encourage more “continuous 
moorers” who would feel that they have paid the £150 extra for the 
right to moor where they feel like for as long as they feel like.
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> As a possible other suggestion if it is a fact (BWAF report (9.12) 
that B.W.’s incomes from the licence fee plus at least 9% of any 
mooring fee then what about looking at this situation. I propose that 
the two be separated completely and we pay a fee to moor and we pay a 
fee to navigate. So at some given date the licence fee goes up by 
inflation plus 9% and the mooring fees reduce by 9%. We would all 
know what we are paying for then. May be that would also go some way 
to encouraging the perceived continuers moorers to take a mooring as 
well, if mooring prices fall and maybe the boaters that feel 
continual cruisers are pay less into B.W.s funds would be partly 
placated as the charge for navigation licence would be raised."
>  
> That was my considered thoughts for B.W, and the extra bi for the 
news group....  
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> As some one said when this kicked off, it is getting towards a 
“divide” and rule situation when all boat owners should be 
sticking together, Is now the time and situation to be doing the 
lobbying etc? for a increased grant or other funding that reflects 
the use that non-licence fee make of our waterways and if we all have 
to accept a 11% licence fee increase it may galvanize more people 
into action.
>  
> Btw our narrowboat is 7ft wide by 50 foot long so would just about 
go anywhere….no vested interest in asking anybody to pay more than 
me then, and we have a on line B W mooring that we have been lucky 
enough to be away from for the last 6 months....
>  
> Colin
> nb Patty Ann on the Middlewich branch heading home to Lancashire 
for't winter.
>  



Totally agreed with everything you have said, now all we need is 
everyone to say the samething too BW.

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