Hi folks,

My apologies for the length of this post but the question of solar power 
has arisen once more and I'm wondering whether any of you good folk can 
offer advice on the subject.

Even allowing for the fact that the financial 'payback' period is 
unlikely to be within my own lifetime, I do feel that there has to be 
some advantage - if only in terms of pure convenience and reduced genny 
running time and thus fuel costs.

Being a penny-pinching pensioner (who, for the first time in many 
decades actually enjoyed having his hair cut - at 'OAP prices', of 
course .. LOL ..) I think its also a double shame that [a] we can't get 
a similarly reduced tax scheme for petrol - as we presently do for 
diesel, or [b] government grants for using non-fossil fuel 
electrical/heating systems - but that is another subject entirely :(

Anyway, levity(?) apart, where do you think the 'minimum' line in terms 
of solar unit(s) sizing should be drawn for a live-aboard? I'm also 
interested in just how much efficiency is likely to be lost during 
cloudy, wintry days, when the sun is lower in the sky, and the 
advisability (or not - apart from the obvious difficulties of enforcing 
warranties on doubtful goods sourced from China) of buying kits/panels 
from sources such as Ebay.

I presently still run my mains powered refrigerator occasionally (5 amps 
drawn) and use a mixture of 12v/15 watt fluorescent lights, usually with 
a maximum of only two ever being on at any one time, and 240v/11 watt 
low power lighting - although, when I occasionally  need a little more 
light during the evenings I occasionally resort to using a single 
240v/40 watt halogen lamp instead.  Generally I guess that lighting is 
on for a maximum of about 12 hours per day.

Apart from adding the vacuum toilet pump, the water and shower drain 
pumps, the only other users of electrical energy I can think of are:
# the 3kW inverter - which probably uses as much power to run as I ever 
draw from it (!)
# a 12v 'Maestro' Gas Safe alarm system with three sensors (it 
originally came with a one amp mains adaptor - although I run it 
permanently on 12 volts - but I have never actually checked out the 
current draw)
# a 12v ex-car radio/cd player which is on more or less 18 hours a day, and
# my laptop, which is fitted with a 19v/3.42 amp power supply and which 
is used for maybe a couple of hours max per day - maybe slightly more if 
I watch a DVD in the evening - on average.

I've no TV, and no real plans to put one in either yet.

The Mikumi 40 domestic water heater/blown air central heating system 
should, hopefully, be commissioned this week so I can't really add much 
about that - other than to say, at the present time anyway, I tend to 
bank up the 'Squirrel' overnight (no back boiler unfortunately) and have 
yet to feel the need to have an additional source of heat, although the 
very idea of having the luxury of 'running hot water' is actually quite 
enticing ..lol!

When I need to use/recharge my power tools I will invariably use a 2kw 
petrol genny - and then take advantage of the extra power to use the 
electric kettle, toaster, washing machine, slow cooker, etc.; but, with 
the exception of the washing machine (if I don't plan to return home 
before running out of clean clothes) these mostly live unused in the 
back of a cupboard.

Without the refrigeration being 'on', my battery bank (4*120a/h newish 
flooded batteries) lasts around 2 days before it hits 11 volts - which 
might seem to indicate a minimum average usage of around 80 amp/hours  
per day. This is backed up by the 40 amp, four stage mains charger 
taking roughly an hour to hit 14.5 volts before going into stage two.  
My calculations from the above, however, only suggest a total usage of 
about 500+ watts over a 24 hour period - unless I am going seriously 
wrong somewhere :(

It seemed to me, albeit it is very early in the morning(!), that I would 
need about 500watts/6 charging hours, i.e. a bare minimum of 80 (ish) 
watts (before any corrections due to loss of efficiency), with 
occasional use of the genny, to maintain my batteries in winter, based 
on the calculations; and 80amps*12volts (or 960watts) /6 hours = 160 
watts (again before any corrections) of solar panel, based on battery 
performance.

(BTW, my electrical power generation is usually via a 2kW genny; as I 
tend to travel slowly around the system I have more or less discounted 
any electrical power obtained from the engine whilst underway - 
especially as I have yet to iron out what may be a problem with the 
recent 'Adverc' modification to improve the charge rate of the OEM 70amp 
alternator.)

All comments / advice / suggestions based on your own knowledge and 
experiences of solar panels would be gratefully appreciated - as would 
any suggestions of reasonably priced (prices seem to vary enormously 
according to sources and types available) units and/or suppliers of 
panels/kits, new or second user - I'm not rich enough to be proud .. LOL 
.. :))

Cheers,

Trevor
nb 'Wyrd' on the wet above, besides, and below, K&A


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