Adrian Stott wrote (in amongst a whole load of illogical drivel) ...
 
> Poorer people generally don't drive, so they will be little affected
> by road pricing.

Yeah Gods! I thought I was passed the point of being surprised by the
b*ll*cks you peddle but this really takes the biscuit!

I won't quote masses of stats (tempting though it is ... the relevant link
is http://research.dwp.gov.uk/asd/hbai/hbai2008/contents.asp ) but there are
about 5.6 million adults in the UK below the poverty line and they're not
all state benefit scroungers by a long chalk. Anyone on national minimum
wage in a one income household is officially living in poverty for starters.

And that's poverty mind you, not just being poor. Mind you, poverty isn't
what it used to be!

"Poorer people" generally DO drive, you [insert appropriate expletive of
choice] because they've got no damn choice! 

Try doing the weekly shop for a family of five by bus. It's not an option
when either you're home or the cheaper supermarkets is not on a bus route.

Try getting to work by any other means that a car when the only job you can
get is working shifts with weekend work included in a warehouse built beside
a motorway junction miles from the nearest large population centre.

In the REAL world that most of us live in, the car is quite simply a
necessity. The fallacy in your blithe assumption that road pricing will
significantly reduce the number of car journeys is that very few people
outside of London, and perhaps one or two other major cities, are making
significant numbers of avoidable journeys.
 
Road pricing as a replacement for fuel duty is a daft idea too.

Fuel duty is actually a very logical method of collecting income from
motorists.

The more miles you do, the more you pay. However, the more economical your
car, and the more economically you drive it, the less you pay.

Fuel duty, along with the graduated rates of road fund tax, to some extent
discourage ownership of larger and less environmentally friendly cars. It's
for damn sure the reason why these days I drive around in a 1.9TD MPV rather
than a 3.5 V8 Range Rover. And if I didn't need to be able to shift lots of
PA gear around I'd swap the Scenic out for something even smaller and
cheaper to run.

However, if the cost of the journey from A to B was going to be the same in
either vehicle, I'd be back to having a Rangie like a shot.

You simply cannot solve problems like this through simple market economics.
It's this Thatcherite view of the world that has led to the "I'm all right
Jack" culture which is prevalent in our society today.

And if you are going to insist on trying to apply a market economics
solution to a social problem, a good starting point would be to develop some
understanding of a> the basic facts and b> the basic principles.

For starters, try to grasp the fundamental difference between an essential
good or service and a luxury one and then realise that for most of the
population a car, and most of the journeys made in that car, fall into the
first group.

In any case, putting up the cost of goods or services may have a short term
impact on consumption but, with an unstoppable inevitability, earnings will
rise to catch up within a few short years.

Trying to price people off the roads just will not work as a sustainable
long term solution.

Bru

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