Basically my question is what to do before to go in sleep mode and what to do
just after the wake up.
In the main I do:
switch(baudrate) // 0=100KBaud, 1=125KBaud, 2=200KBaud, 3=250KBaud,
4=500KBaud, 5=1000KBaud
{
case 0: canInit(100); break;
case 1: canInit(125); break;
case 2: canInit(200); break;
case 3: canInit(250); break;
case 4: canInit(500); break;
case 5: canInit(1000); break;
}
initTimer(); // Start timer for the CANopen stack
setNodeId(&ObjDict_Data, nodeID);
setState(&ObjDict_Data, Pre_operational); // Init the state
so, shall I have to do something before the sleep?
and after at the wake up?
Thanks in advance to anyone spends time in this.
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Another question:
I've implemented the canFestival on a node which goes in sleep mode
(POWER_DOWN) when there's no power supply.
This device has a battery to keep the power supply on in OR with the main one.
Of course when the battery is on I need to put everything in deep sleep mode
with a consumption around 1.5uA @3V.
The issue is that sometimes, if I receive something on the bus, the node
suddendly wakes up from the sleep.
Therefore I need to avoid this bad situation in order to avoid the battery
discharge.
How can I disable the canbus just before to go in sleep?
Basically the sleep mode control is made in pin_change interrupt function.
ISR(PCINT1_vect) // interrupt service routine called when the sensor is
battery powered or not (LOWER PRIORITY THAN PCINT0_vect)
{
sleepMode = !digitalRead(V_supply);
if ( sleepMode )
{
Can_disable(); // doesn't work
#ifdef SERIAL_DEBUG
Serial.print('\0'); // print the NULL character to be sure that the TX
port pin (PB0) is LOW
#endif
cli();
stopADC();
sleep();
}
else
turnedOn = true;
}
I'm quite sure that there is something in the canFestival framework which put
the uC ON if something is received just before to go in sleep.
Any suggestion?
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Sorry guys my fault.
The default nodeID is 0x01.
Everything works correctly
Thanks and sorry
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I've found the issue.
It relative on how the objectdictionary .c file is created.
If I leave the file as it is
/* index 0x1200 : Server SDO Parameter. */
UNS8 ObjDict_highestSubIndex_obj1200 = 2; /* number of
subindex - 1*/
UNS32 ObjDict_obj1200_COB_ID_Client_to_Server_Receive_SDO =
0x600; /* 1536 */
The canbus node doesn't reply to any SDO request.
If I change it like this
/* index 0x1200 : Server SDO Parameter. */
UNS8 ObjDict_highestSubIndex_obj1200 = 2; /* number of
subindex - 1*/
UNS32 ObjDict_obj1200_COB_ID_Client_to_Server_Receive_SDO =
0x605; /* 1536 */
where 0x05 is the nodeID
I get the right reply from my node
Is this a bug on the object dictionary building procedure in the python
script?
Waiting a kind reply
Thanks
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I did some other tests.
The issue seems inside the canDispatch function in states.c.
I'm using a pin as debug in order to understand if the code in some point
is executed or not.
basically this is done in the canDispatch:
..............
case SDOrx:
if (d->CurrentCommunicationState.csSDO)
{
DDRB |= (1<<PB4); // set PB4 as output
PORTB |= (1<<PB4); // set PB4 HIGH for DEBUG
proceedSDO(d,m);
}
break;
case NODE_GUARD:
if (d->CurrentCommunicationState.csLifeGuard)
proceedNODE_GUARD(d,m);
break;
case NMT:
if (*(d->iam_a_slave))
{
DDRB |= (1<<PB4); // set PB4 as output
PORTB |= (1<<PB4); // set PB4 HIGH for DEBUG
proceedNMTstateChange(d,m);
}
break;
............
I can see that at the beginning, when I change the state from
initialization to oeprational the case NMT is executed correctly.
In fact I see the right PDO coming down to the bus.
But if I send a message on the bus, the case SDOrx is not executed, then
neither the proceedSDO(d,m) function
I'll investigate well tomorrow yet.
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Re: R: Re: R: Re: CanFestival on ATmega64M1 in Arduino IDE
symboles.c: dont know if it does any damage, but it does nothing good.
it's for Linux kernel module usage you should not include it in Arduino
build
On Sat, 15 Dec 2018, 17:33 <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
Could this issue during compilation
/home/alessio/Arduino/libraries/CanFestival_ATmega64M1_Arduino/symbols.c:56:1:
warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of 'EXPORT_SYMBOL' [enabled by
default]
/home/alessio/Arduino/libraries/CanFestival_ATmega64M1_Arduino/symbols.c:56:1:
warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration [enabled by
default]
/home/alessio/Arduino/libraries/CanFestival_ATmega64M1_Arduino/symbols.c:57:1:
warning: data definition has no type or storage class [enabled by default]
EXPORT_SYMBOL (_setODentry);
^
be an issue regarding the missing replies on the BUS.
This kind of warning message is repeated for many symbols:
honestly I don't think so but for completeness I give you this
information
Thanks
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Re: R: Re: CanFestival on ATmega64M1 in Arduino IDE
Do the can messages look okay in the canDispatch function (states.c)
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 7:30 PM <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> That's the strange thing.
>
> The node doesn't react to any message sent
>
> ----Messaggio originale----
> Da:
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> Data: 13-dic-2018 18.04
> A: <
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> Ogg: Re: [Canfestival-devel] R: Re: R: R: R: R: R: R: R: R: R: Re: R: Re: R:
> Re: CanFestival on ATmega64M1 in Arduino IDE
>
> Strange,
> You should get a reply on "all" sdo messages
> Does the node react to any messages you send to the node?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 10:57 AM
> <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> >
> > PDOs every 100ms are running correctly.
> >
> > The issue remaining is the response from the node.
> >
> > For instance if I wish to change the event cycle for the PDO from 100ms to
> > 70 ms I need to write on the bus:
> >
> > nodeID 2Bh 00h 18h 05h 46h 00h 00h 00h
> >
> > where nodeID is 600+ID and in my case is 601
> >
> > Normally when you send something on the canbus you get a response from the
> > node that depends if the object dictionary element is implemented in the
> > dictionary.
> >
> > In my case I don't get any reply from the node.
> >
> > I don't know why
> >
> >
> > ----Messaggio originale----
> > Da:
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Data: 13-dic-2018 10.07
> > A: <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Ogg: Re: [Canfestival-devel] R: R: R: R: R: R: R: R: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re:
> > CanFestival on ATmega64M1 in Arduino IDE
> >
> > so, everything is up and running?
> >
> > On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, 16:17 <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> solved with
> >>
> >> // CANIE1 = 0x7F; // Enable the interrupts of all MObs (0..14)
> >> // CANIE2 = 0xFF;
> >> CANIE2 = 0x3F; // Enable the interrupts of all MObs (0..5) edited for
> >> ATmegaxxM1
> >>
> >> in the can_AVR.c file
> >>
> >> ----Messaggio originale----
> >> Da:
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Data: 12-dic-2018 11.49
> >> A: <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> Ogg: [Canfestival-devel] R: R: R: R: R: R: R: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re:
> >> CanFestival on ATmega64M1 in Arduino IDE
> >>
> >>
> >> the Atmega64M1 has only 6 Mobs instead of 15 of AT90CAN128.
> >>
> >> So I need to change some #define in the can_drv.h file
> >>
> >> // #define NB_MOB 15
> >> #define NB_MOB 6 // edited for ATmegaxxM1
> >> #define NB_DATA_MAX 8
> >> #define LAST_MOB_NB (NB_MOB-1)
> >> #define NO_MOB 0xFF
> >> // ----------
> >> //typedef enum {
> >> // MOB_0, MOB_1, MOB_2, MOB_3, MOB_4, MOB_5, MOB_6, MOB_7,
> >> // MOB_8, MOB_9, MOB_10, MOB_11, MOB_12, MOB_13, MOB_14 }
> >> can_mob_t;
> >> typedef enum {MOB_0, MOB_1, MOB_2, MOB_3, MOB_4, MOB_5} can_mob_t;//
> >> edited for ATmegaxxM1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----Messaggio originale----
> >> Da:
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Data: 12-dic-2018 11.33
> >> A: <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> Ogg: [Canfestival-devel] R: R: R: R: R: R: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re:
> >> CanFestival on ATmega64M1 in Arduino IDE
> >>
> >> Sorry my mistake,
> >>
> >> the number of PDO sent after the operational mode is, of course, equal to
> >> NB_TX_MOB = (NB_MOB - NB_RX_MOB)
> >>
> >> ----Messaggio originale----
> >> Da:
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> >> Data: 12-dic-2018 10.58
> >> A: <
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> >> Ogg: [Canfestival-devel] R: R: R: R: R: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: CanFestival
> >> on ATmega64M1 in Arduino IDE
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> after some proofs I found another issue on the ATmega64M1.
> >>
> >> Basically and actually I'm able to receive only some PDOs at the beginning
> >> (after the operational mode).
> >> The number of PDOs receive is based on the NB_RX_MOB define.
> >> So if I define NB_RX_MOB = 3 I receive only 3 PDO after the operational
> >> mode, if I define it = 6 I receive only 6 PDOs.
> >>
> >> After that the canbus goes in a sort of stuck mode and I need a master
> >> reset to resume the node.
> >>
> >> The timer1 works properly just adding these instructions:
> >>
> >> /* Added by me for Arduino compliance */
> >> TCCR1A = 0;
> >> TCCR1B = 0;
> >> TIMSK1 = 0;
> >> /**************************************/
> >>
> >> in the timer_AVR.c
> >>
> >> Any suggestion?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance
> >>
> >> ----Messaggio originale----
> >> Da:
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> >> Data: 11-dic-2018 16.01
> >> A: <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> Ogg: [Canfestival-devel] R: R: R: R: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: CanFestival on
> >> ATmega64M1 in Arduino IDE
> >>
> >> I've found the issue and it was relative to the TCCR1A value.
> >>
> >> Arduino touches this timer at the beginning in the wiring.c file.
> >>
> >> Then actually the timer works but I can receive only five PDO after the
> >> startup.
> >>
> >> After that the CANBUS seems stuck and I don't receive PDO anymore.
> >>
> >> The only way is to make a master reset in order to receive other 5 PDO.
> >>
> >> ----Messaggio originale----
> >> Da:
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> >> Data: 11-dic-2018 12.21
> >> A: <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> Ogg: [Canfestival-devel] R: R: R: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: CanFestival on
> >> ATmega64M1 in Arduino IDE
> >>
> >> hello,
> >> I found a strange bug with setting 16bit registers.
> >>
> >> I tried to set 16 bit register OCR1B, but only the lower 8 bits were
> >> applied.
> >>
> >> The datasheet says that for OCR1B you have to first set the upper byte as
> >> documented, and afterwards commit with the lower byte.
> >> this however does not work for me.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----Messaggio originale----
> >> Da:
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Data: 11-dic-2018 11.30
> >> A: <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> Ogg: [Canfestival-devel] R: R: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: CanFestival on
> >> ATmega64M1 in Arduino IDE
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> something strange compare if I try to debug the TCNT1 and OCR1B values.
> >>
> >> Why I get only values from 0 to 255?
> >>
> >> The timer1 is a 16bit timer
> >>
> >> ???????????????????
> >>
> >> ----Messaggio originale----
> >> Da:
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Data: 11-dic-2018 10.04
> >> A: <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> Ogg: [Canfestival-devel] R: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: CanFestival on ATmega64M1
> >> in Arduino IDE
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> probably the issue is that for the ATmega64M1 I have to use the TIMER1 in
> >> CTC mode up to OCR1A as top value?
> >>
> >> ----Messaggio originale----
> >> Da:
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Data: 11-dic-2018 9.12
> >> A: <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> Ogg: [Canfestival-devel] R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: CanFestival on ATmega64M1 in
> >> Arduino IDE
> >>
> >> I'm using 8MHz external clock.
> >>
> >> Timer should be 8us per tick since that I'm using the clkio/64 prescaler.
> >>
> >> So the timing frequency is, or I suppose, 125Khz --> 8us.
> >>
> >> // The timer is incrementing every 8 us.
> >> #define MS_TO_TIMEVAL(ms) ((ms) * 125)
> >> #define US_TO_TIMEVAL(us) ((us)>>3)
> >>
> >> This definition seems to be correct because each timer tick = 8us.
> >>
> >> In order to have us we have to divide the tick count value by 8 (>>3)
> >> instead to have ms we have to multiply by 125.
> >>
> >> It seems exact.
> >>
> >> Why you told me that this define are incorrect?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----Messaggio originale----
> >> Da:
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Data: 10-dic-2018 20.58
> >> A: <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> Ogg: Re: [Canfestival-devel] R: Re: R: Re: CanFestival on ATmega64M1 in
> >> Arduino IDE
> >>
> >> This I should be able to help you with
> >> in timerscfg.h there are two macros that need to be correct
> >> MS_TO_TIMEVAL and US_TO_TIMEVAL
> >>
> >> They are used to convert ms and us to timer ticks (TIMEVAL)
> >>
> >> What clock frequency are you using?
> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 3:13 PM <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > the issue seems relative to the timer event.
> >> >
> >> > If I program a transmist PDO every 100ms I can see at the beginning some
> >> > PDO every 1 or 2 ms.
> >> >
> >> > After that the CANNUS stacks and I cannot receive PDOs anymore up to a
> >> > new uC master reset, so a new canbus initialization process.
> >> >
> >> > Basically the timer_AVR.c file is exactly equal to the original one
> >> > (for the at90can128) except in the initTimer function where I use the
> >> > timer1 because the ATmega64M1 doesn't have the timer3
> >> >
> >> > void initTimer(void)
> >> > /******************************************************************************
> >> >
> >> > Initializes the timer, turn on the interrupt and put the interrupt time
> >> > to zero
> >> > INPUT void
> >> > OUTPUT void
> >> > ******************************************************************************/
> >> >
> >> > {
> >> > TimerAlarm = 0; // Set it back to the zero
> >> >
> >> > // Set timer 1 for CANopen operation tick 8us max, time is 524ms
> >> > TCCR1B = (1 << CS11) | (1 << CS10); // Timer 1 normal, mit CK/64
> >> > TIMSK1 = 1 << OCIE1B; // Enable the interrupt
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > Any comment/suggestion?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance
> >> >
> >> > ----Messaggio originale----
> >> > Da:
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> > Data: 6-dic-2018 21.04
> >> > A: <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> > Ogg: Re: [Canfestival-devel] R: Re: CanFestival on ATmega64M1 in Arduino
> >> > IDE
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I do not have access to a ATmega64M1, so there is no way AFIK for me
> >> > to run and debug your code.
> >> > Also near zero experience with Arduino, lots of experience with
> >> > at90can128 though.
> >> >
> >> > I could always look at your code, but without knowing the general
> >> > place where the problem is, it is close to impossible... for me :)
> >> >
> >> > When you say that only thing that is working is THE nmt message.
> >> > Is there only one nmt message?
> >> > What nmt state is the node in?
> >> > Have you tried to set it to operational state?
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards
> >> > Lars
> >> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:26 PM <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > The only thing which is working is the NMT message at the startup.
> >> > >
> >> > > No SDO response and I cannot able to make debug now.
> >> > >
> >> > > Can I attach the whole directory project which stay in the
> >> > > Arduino/libraries folder to give you the whole files package?
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks
> >> > >
> >> > > Bye
> >> > >
> >> > > Alessio
> >> > >
> >> > > ----Messaggio originale----
> >> > > Da:
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> > > Data: 3-dic-2018 17.52
> >> > > A: <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> > > Ogg: Re: [Canfestival-devel] CanFestival on ATmega64M1 in Arduino IDE
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > > Does anything work?
> >> > > Like heartbeat or sdo?
> >> > >
> >> > > could you check if the code reaches buildPDO?
> >> > >
> >> > > Best Regards
> >> > > Lars
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 6:02 PM <
canfestival-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dear all,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > first of all many thanks to the developers and people in general
> >> > > > that spent time on this project making it an affordable CanOpen
> >> > > > platform for everyone.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm new on this mailing list and here to explain my problem.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm an electronic engineer and a researcher of University of Brescia
> >> > > > (Italy) and I'm trying to make the canFestival working on Arduino
> >> > > > using the Atmega64M1 uC.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I know that there is the CanFestivino project that is the
> >> > > > CanFestival porting for the Arduino IDE and the Atmega328p with the
> >> > > > external controller MCP2515.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It works but the guy that makes the porting cut several features to
> >> > > > fit the code with the Atmega328 ROM and RAM.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I reached it compilable in Arduino starting from the AVR example for
> >> > > > the ATCAN90128. This uC is very similar to the ATmega64M1.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The only things that I did was to change the timer, from timer3 to
> >> > > > timer1 (timer3 is not present on the ATmega64M1) and some tiny
> >> > > > modifications in the CAN driver.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Actually my project is compilable in Arduino where I created an
> >> > > > example to read an analog input (A0) sending it through a PDO each
> >> > > > 100ms.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The only thing to need in order to compile it is the Arduino IDE
> >> > > > support files for CAN enabled Amtel AVR chips: ATmega64M1,
> >> > > > ATmega32M1, ...HERE.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I cannot figure out why but actually the example doesn't work and
> >> > > > I'm struggling on it....making me a bit crazy because I don't
> >> > > > understand why.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hope that someone can help me in this....
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Alessio
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