I believe Karl Ackerman's definition for Weakness is better, but I would
stop after behavior.

weakness: *A deficiency in a product or configuration that allows
unintended behavior.*

*Ofer Sheinkin*
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o...@sheinkin.org



On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 10:44 PM Karl Ackerman <karl.acker...@sophos.com>
wrote:

> Sorry for chiming in on this but isn't a
> weakness: A deficiency in a product or configuration that allows
> unintended behavior or access by an unauthorized entity
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> *From:* Godsey, Charles M (Mike) <godse...@nationwide.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2022 3:05 PM
> *To:* Keith J Hill <kh...@mitre.org>; Alec J Summers <asumm...@mitre.org>;
> CAPEC Researcher Discussion <capec-research-list@mitre.org>
> *Subject:* RE: CWE/CAPEC Definitions
>
>
> How about something like this:
>
>
>
> Weakness: A state or condition in a product that when subjected to certain
> condition(s) will fail.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
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> Thanks for the reminder Alec,
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>
>
> I’m bothered by the Weakness definition, specifically “type of flaw or
> defect inserted...”  because I think this presumes too much.  I’m tossing
> this into the ring for consideration. It incorporates some of the ideas
> that others proposed.
>
>
>
> *Weakness: A condition that under the right circumstances begins a process
> or combines with other weaknesses to cause a harm in a product or system.*
>
>
>
> The key is that a weakness is a *condition*; it may include human and
> process flaws.  A weakness begins or contribute to that chain of
> circumstances that results in a vulnerability/harm.
>
>
>
> Keith
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Alec J Summers <asumm...@mitre.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2022 2:39 PM
> *To:* CAPEC Researcher Discussion <capec-research-list@mitre.org>
> *Subject:* FW: CWE/CAPEC Definitions
>
>
>
> Just a soft follow-up and reminder that we are seeking comment from our
> CAPEC researcher community on the proposed definitions by next Tuesday,
> July 26. If you have already responded – thank you!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alec
>
>
>
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> *Alec J. Summers*
>
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>
> Cyber Security Engineer, Principal
>
> Group Lead, Cybersecurity Operations and Integration
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>
> *From: *Alec J Summers <asumm...@mitre.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 1:08 PM
> *To: *CAPEC Researcher Discussion <capec-research-list@mitre.org>
> *Subject: *CWE/CAPEC Definitions
>
> Dear CAPEC Research Community,
>
>
>
> I hope this email finds you well.
>
>
>
> Over the past few months, the CWE/CAPEC User Experience Working Group has
> been working to modernize our programs through a variety of activities. One
> such activity is harmonizing the definitions on our sites for some of our
> key terminology including weakness, vulnerability, and attack pattern. As
> CWE and CAPEC were developed separately and on a different timeline, some
> of the terms are not defined similarly, and we want to address that.
>
>
>
> We are seeking feedback on our working definitions:
>
>
>
> *Vulnerability*
>
> *A flaw in a software, firmware, hardware, or service component resulting
> from a weakness that can be exploited, causing a negative impact to the
> confidentiality, integrity, or availability of an impacted component or
> components (from CVE®)*
>
> *Weakness*
>
> *A type of flaw or defect inserted during a product lifecycle that, under
> the right conditions, could contribute to the introduction of
> vulnerabilities in a range of products made by different vendors*
>
> *Attack Pattern*
>
> *The common approach and attributes related to the exploitation of a
> weakness, usually in cyber-enabled capabilities*
>
>
>
> *Note*: CVE’s definition for ‘vulnerability’ was agreed upon after
> significant community deliberation, and we are not looking to change it at
> this time.
>
>
>
> We are hoping to publish new, improved definitions on our websites at the
> end of the month. Please provide thoughts and comments by Tuesday, July 26.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alec
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Alec J. Summers*
>
> Center for Securing the Homeland (CSH)
>
> Cyber Security Engineer, Principal
>
> Group Lead, Cybersecurity Operations and Integration
>
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> *MITRE - Solving Problems for a Safer World™*
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