Hi Kenton,

Wow -- thanks for the prompt reply! :)  This makes sense, thanks for 
clarifying.

I'd be more than happy to get involved in making the Level 3 spec *and* 
implementation a 
reality, and I have the bandwidth to dedicate to such a project.  Any 
chance we might be able to work together on this?

Again, I'm quite eager to push this forward as 3-way introductions are a 
killer feature for a project I'm working on.

Let me know!
Louis
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 12:10:15 PM UTC-4 [email protected] 
wrote:

> Hi Louis,
>
> This is somewhat embarrassing, but there is no level 3 implementation of 
> Cap'n Proto today, in any language. It's likely that when I get around to 
> implementing it in C++, the protocol spec will change to solve 
> unanticipated problems. As such, trying to implement the spec as-written in 
> Go today might be frustrating, as it may be hard to tell the difference 
> between the spec having a bug vs. the spec doing something weird 
> intentionally, and there's no reference implementation to test against. :/
>
> As for level 2, yes, we eventually realized that level 2 doesn't really 
> belong in the core spec at all, so you can pretty much ignore the level 2 
> interfaces. Maybe I should actually delete them...
>
> -Kenton
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 11:02 AM lthibault <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I'm currently using the Go implementation 
>> <https://github.com/capnproto/go-capnproto2> of Cap'n Proto, which 
>> features Level 1 support for the RPC protocol, and I'm discovering that my 
>> use case would benefit greatly from Level 3 support.  Since Ross is no 
>> longer actively maintaining the project, I'm investigating the possibility 
>> of implementing Level 3 support myself, and possibly volunteering to 
>> maintain the project.  
>>
>> I've read through the Cap'n Proto spec (i.e. the .capnp files in the 
>> github repository, especially the network interface sketch 
>> <https://github.com/capnproto/capnproto/blob/cf34b937f08af618b4dc057a0f5dd47acbf4e615/c%2B%2B/src/capnp/rpc.capnp#L1375-L1476>),
>>  
>> perused conversations in this Google Group, and even tried to scavenge from 
>> the E language website/wiki, but I'm still struggling to get a "big 
>> picture" idea of how the 3-way introduction protocol works.
>>
>> As such, I'm you kind folks might be able to point me in the right 
>> direction, starting with two very general questions:
>>
>>    1. How does the 3-way introduction protocol work?  Is it specified 
>>    anywhere (e.g. in an RFC?)
>>    2. What does the roadmap look like from Leve 1 to Level 3?
>>    3. My understanding from reading the source is that Level 2 can 
>>    largely be ignored.  Does Level 3 depend on level 2 in any way?  The 
>>    numbering suggests so...
>>
>> Many thanks in advance,
>> Louis
>>
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