Was someone going to send out a meeting invite or something? On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 4:11 PM Louis Thibault <[email protected]> wrote:
> Alright, it seems like everyone is eager to meet this Friday, so let’s do > that. :) > > See you all on Friday, as initially planned. > > - Louis > > On Sep 30, 2020, at 17:08, Kenton Varda <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm still happy to chat this Friday. > > -Kenton > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 3:41 PM Louis Thibault <[email protected]> wrote: > >> 100% agree — let’s not lose momentum. I’ll send out another invite when >> we hear back from Ross. >> >> Cheers, >> Louis >> >> On Sep 30, 2020, at 16:27, Ian Denhardt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I'm okay re-scheduling for the 16th if others are. I think we should >> just plan to move forward one way or the other from there though; >> there's some utility maybe in having Kenton work out the kinks first, >> but ultimately I feel like I understand things well enough to move ahead >> of the C++ implementation if we need to, and I'd rather not block on it >> indefinitely. >> >> -Ian >> >> Quoting Louis Thibault (2020-09-30 15:45:21) >> >> Hi Kenton, >> >> Thanks for your email and congratulations on the launch! Looks really >> cool! >> >> It'll probably take the least time overall if I can manage to take an >> initial crack at it first in C++ and just power through things, rather >> than have other people try to implement the spec as written and then >> have to ask a lot of questions when there's confusion. >> >> Sure, that makes perfect sense. I'm thinking it's probably best if we >> push back the meeting until after you've laid down the foundations for >> 3PH, at which point we can kill two birds with one stone: changes to >> the spec based on your C++ implementation, and considerations for the >> Go implementation. >> >> Kenton, I don't want to pressure you into meeting any sort of deadline, >> but I also don't want this project to fall through the cracks. Is it >> ok if we tentatively reschedule for e.g. Friday October 16th at 13:00 >> PDT and make any adjustments as-needed? (Ross, Ian, does that date >> also work for you?) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Louis >> >> On Sep 30, 2020, at 15:29, Kenton Varda <[1][email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Sorry for the very slow response this time. We had a big launch on >> Monday and I haven't had much time to reply to e-mail. >> Incidentally that launch is vaguely relevant here. >> [2]https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-workers-durable-objects/ >> We built the infrastructure for this on Cap'n Proto. When you make a >> request to a Durable Object, you're actually making Cap'n Proto RPC >> requests all they way from the call site to the destination object. >> Since Durable Objects will soon be able to migrate around the world, >> 3-party handoff is likely to become important as old locations will >> need to forward requests to new locations. >> The Workers Runtime is written in C++, but we do have a fair amount of >> Go code at Cloudflare, so it'd be neat if 3PH were supported there too. >> In any case, I'd like to start working on this soon, but I also have a >> big pile of other things I need to work on so I'm not sure how much >> time I'll have to dedicate. >> Based on my experience working on the RPC system in the past, I think >> it's safe to expect that as we implement 3PH, we're likely to run into >> a bunch of little spec issues. It'll probably take the least time >> overall if I can manage to take an initial crack at it first in C++ and >> just power through things, rather than have other people try to >> implement the spec as written and then have to ask a lot of questions >> when there's confusion. I'm hoping to get at least a few days to work >> on it maybe the week after next. >> As it happens I am available at 13:00 PDT (15:00 CDT) Friday if you >> still want to chat then. >> -Kenton >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ian Denhardt <[3][email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Works for me. >> Quoting lthibault (2020-09-25 11:04:56) >> >> Friday October 2 at 13:00 PST (16:00 EST for Ian and myself) >> >> works for >> >> me. >> >> Ian, is that ok with you? >> >> Kenton, any chance we might count you in as well? >> >> - Louis >> >> On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 10:52:25 AM UTC-4 >> >> [4][email protected] >> >> wrote: >> >> I'm available next Friday (Oct 2) from 1p PT onward. >> >> On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 7:36:07 AM UTC-7 lthibault >> >> wrote: >> >> >> Sounds good to me � looking forward to it. >> - Louis >> >> On Sep 24, 2020, at 17:17, Ian Denhardt >> >> <[5][email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> I just opened an issue: >> >> [1][6]https://github.com/capnproto/go-capnproto2/issues/160 >> >> I believe Kenton is in Texas these days. For my part I >> >> could >> >> manage most >> >> afternoons/evenings (eastern time) though Monday & Thursday >> >> afternoons >> >> are bad. But if Ross and/or Kenton are interested in >> >> joining us I >> >> suspect their schedules are much more constrained than >> >> mine. >> >> >> -Ian >> >> Quoting lthibault (2020-09-23 18:31:05) >> >> Are you amenable to Jitsi Meet[1] instead of Zoom? >> >> That's totally fine. I've been meaning to ditch Zoom, >> >> anyway. >> >> >> We should also perhaps reach out to Ross >> >> >> Absolutely. Would you be able to reach out to him? >> >> I think you and I are in the same time zone (I'm in New >> >> Haven, >> >> CT), and >> >> I believe Kenton and Ross are on the west coast, so maybe >> >> early >> >> early >> >> afternoon? >> >> Any particular preference for the day? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Louis >> >> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 5:36:03 PM UTC-4 >> >> [7][email protected] >> >> wrote: >> >> Quoting lthibault (2020-09-23 14:41:13) >> >> How do you suggest we proceed? I'm thinking it might be >> >> useful >> >> to >> >> get >> >> synchronized over a Zoom call since (a) I could benefit >> >> from a >> >> guided >> >> tour of v3 and (b) my initial high-level questions about >> >> the >> >> Level >> >> 3 >> >> protocol remain open. Would be cool if Kenton could join >> >> us too. >> >> :) >> I'd be up for a video call. Are you amenable to Jitsi >> >> Meet[1] >> >> instead of >> Zoom? We've been using it for the weekly Sandstorm office >> >> hours >> >> calls. >> We should also perhaps reach out to Ross; I know he >> >> doesn't have >> >> time to >> hack on it, but might still be interested in weighing in >> >> on >> >> design >> >> questions/offering advice. Want to open an issue re: level >> >> 3 on >> >> the >> >> Go >> implementation's issue tracker? Maybe we can coordinate >> >> the rest >> >> of >> >> this there. I know Ross is also on this mailing list, so >> >> he may >> >> see >> >> this >> anyway, but he'll definitely see it there. >> -Ian >> [1]: [1][2][8]https://meet.jit.si >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to >> >> the >> >> Google >> >> Groups "Cap'n Proto" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >> >> from it, >> >> send >> >> an email to [2][9][email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >> >> [3][3][10]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/7bdd072b-9496- >> 4e52 >> >> -afca- >> >> e105626e24b3n%[4][11]40googlegroups.com. >> >> Verweise >> >> 1. [5][12]https://meet.jit.si/ >> 2. mailto:[13][email protected] >> 3. >> >> >> [6][14]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/7bdd072b-9496-4e5 >> 2-af >> >> >> ca-e105626e24b3n%[15]40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source= >> foot >> >> er >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> >> Google >> >> Groups "Cap'n Proto" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >> >> it, send >> >> an email to [7][16][email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >> [8][17]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/ed1fa9e0-362e-404 >> 1-adaa- >> >> e482f6b3d402n%[18]40googlegroups.com. >> >> Verweise >> >> 1. [19]https://github.com/capnproto/go-capnproto2/issues/160 >> 2. [20]https://meet.jit.si/ >> 3. >> >> [21]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/7bdd072b-9496-4e52-a >> fca- >> >> 4. [22]http://40googlegroups.com/ >> 5. [23]https://meet.jit.si/ >> 6. >> >> [24]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/7bdd072b-9496-4e52-a >> fca-e105626e24b3n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=foo >> ter >> >> 7. mailto:[25][email protected] >> 8. >> >> [26]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/ed1fa9e0-362e-4041-a >> daa-e482f6b3d402n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=foo >> ter >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Cap'n Proto" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to [27][email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> [28]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/160104957747.876.519 >> 2754664800499465%40localhost.localdomain. >> >> Verweise >> >> 1. mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> >> 2. https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-workers-durable-objects/ >> 3. mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> >> 4. mailto:[email protected] >> 5. mailto:[email protected] >> 6. https://github.com/capnproto/go-capnproto2/issues/160 >> 7. mailto:[email protected] >> 8. https://meet.jit.si/ >> 9. mailto:capnproto%[email protected] >> 10. https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/7bdd072b-9496-4e52 >> 11. http://40googlegroups.com/ >> 12. https://meet.jit.si/ >> 13. mailto:capnproto%[email protected] >> 14. https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/7bdd072b-9496-4e52-af >> 15. http://40googlegroups.com/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=foot >> 16. mailto:capnproto%[email protected] >> <capnproto%[email protected]> >> 17. https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/ed1fa9e0-362e-4041-adaa- >> 18. http://40googlegroups.com/ >> 19. https://github.com/capnproto/go-capnproto2/issues/160 >> 20. https://meet.jit.si/ >> 21. https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/7bdd072b-9496-4e52-afca- >> 22. http://40googlegroups.com/ >> 23. https://meet.jit.si/ >> 24. >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/7bdd072b-9496-4e52-afca-e105626e24b3n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer >> 25. mailto:capnproto%[email protected] >> <capnproto%[email protected]> >> 26. >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/ed1fa9e0-362e-4041-adaa-e482f6b3d402n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer >> 27. mailto:capnproto%[email protected] >> <capnproto%[email protected]> >> 28. >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/capnproto/160104957747.876.5192754664800499465%40localhost.localdomain >> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cap'n Proto" group. 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