One option we have is to use Code 114, which was reserved for use by Apple as a 
"URL" option. That particular codepoint wasn't ever used, so it should be open 
to be reclaimed as a CAPPORT API URL. Since this is in the range below 128, it 
should be safer to use.

Best,
Tommy

> On Dec 23, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Bernie Volz (volz) <v...@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi:
>  
> OK, good to know. I had thought that there was support for using option 160 
> in implementations as RFC7710 was published in December 2015.
>  
> I guess Warren will need to update the bis document to request IANA to assign 
> a new DHCPv4 option (replacing 160) because of the potential conflict 
> regarding its use – likely it would be useful to give some short 
> justification for this (about the conflict). Likely the listing for option 
> 160 will need to be something like:
>  
> 160         DEPRECATED (see new-option-code) - DHCP Captive-Portal           
> N             DHCP Captive-Portal       [RFC7710]
> 160         Polycom (vendor specific)
>  
> It may also be appropriate to request IANA assign 111 (if still available) as 
> it has no reported use and is in the original (<128) IANA assigned space (as 
> per RFC2132).
>  
> BTW: Code 115 (which was listed as used by failover in RFC3679) could also be 
> a good choice as I am pretty sure it this was ever used (and if it was, it 
> was for failover communication and not normal clients; and that use has long 
> been deprecated).
>  
> Bernie
>  
> From: tpa...@apple.com <tpa...@apple.com> 
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 12:58 PM
> To: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo=40google....@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Cc: Bernie Volz (volz) <v...@cisco.com>; Michael Richardson 
> <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca>; captive-portals@ietf.org; Warren Kumari 
> <war...@kumari.net>
> Subject: Re: [Captive-portals] option 160 conflict
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Dec 21, 2019, at 7:48 PM, Lorenzo Colitti 
> <lorenzo=40google....@dmarc.ietf.org 
> <mailto:lorenzo=40google....@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 21 Dec 2019, 07:53 Bernie Volz (volz), <v...@cisco.com 
> <mailto:v...@cisco.com>> wrote:
> 1) It would not really remove the overlap for a long while (until all of the 
> clients that used the "old" 160 Capport option are upgraded). So, devices 
> will still need to deal with it for a long while.
>  
> Do any clients or networks actually implement 160 to mean capport? I know 
> that iOS and Android, which seem most interested in this option, do not yet.
>  
> I am not aware of anything using the option yet. iOS does not use it; we used 
> it for interop testing, but that is not in production code. 
> 
>  
> If they do not, the right thing to do would be to get a new option code, and 
> do so as soon as possible so the implementations that are being written this 
> year can immediately start using the new one.
>  
> I would also urge that if we want a new code, we allocate it soon so that the 
> implementations can quickly test it out and ship the right value. 
>  
> Tommy
> 
> 
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