That’s a shame. Do you see any improvement or degradation in 10.13 now it’s out?

-Martin

> On 28 Sep 2017, at 14:16, JP HARMAND <turb...@free.fr> wrote:
> 
> Eric is already aware… but cannot do much..
> 
>  Sierra Quartz radar 29950860
> 
> Regards
> JP
> 
> 
> 
> Le 28 sept. 2017 à 12:28, Martin Crane <martincr...@mac.com 
> <mailto:martincr...@mac.com>> a écrit :
> 
> Wow, yes it’s painfully slow by comparison, I can verify that. I did log a 
> bug with 10.13 beta which had a noticeable slow-down when resizing my app 
> windows but that was fixed before GM.
> 
> Perhaps if you could repeat the radar number here Eric (our Carbon hero) 
> might be able to advise. 
> 
> -Martin
> 
>> On 28 Sep 2017, at 09:43, JP HARMAND <turb...@free.fr 
>> <mailto:turb...@free.fr>> wrote:
>> 
>> Nor using the apis you mention, but
>> The most severe problem with 10.12  and carbon is QUARTZ !
>> Quartz has become extremely slow with 32 apps. Ways slower ( more than 300 
>> times ! ) 
>> I have a radar entry on this since February but no follow up from Apple to 
>> date.
>> The 2 enclosed apps demonstrate the problem ( usage: resize the window to 
>> trigger the test)
>> 
>> Regards
>> JP
>> 
>> <Archive 2.zip>
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>> De: James Walker <li...@jwwalker.com>
>> Objet: Carbon problems on High Sierra
>> Date: 27 septembre 2017 à 00:50:58 UTC+2
>> À: Carbon-dev@lists.apple.com
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>> 
>> Now that High Sierra is out, what issues are people seeing with Carbon? 
>> Here's my list:
>> 
>> 1. HICocoaView has some drawing problems, which prompted Eric Schlegel to 
>> recently ask about HICocoaView use.  Eric told me a workaround, which is to 
>> say
>> 
>> [[NSUserDefaults standardUserDefaults] registerDefaults: @{ 
>> @"NSCGSIsSynchronousM7": @YES }];
>> 
>> fairly early in initialization.  It can be after calling 
>> NSApplicationLoad(), but needs to be before much else has been done with 
>> Cocoa.
>> 
>> 2. The low-level file system call exchangedata does not work with APFS, but 
>> there is a similar function renamex_np that does work with APFS (and not 
>> HFS+).
>> 
>> 3. I had some menu items and buttons that used images from 'cicn' resources 
>> go blank.  I think pretty much everything having to do with 'cicn's has been 
>> deprecated since about 10.5, so I probably can't complain too much.
>> 
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