great, please link our issue that that one as well.
--Srinath

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Waruna Ranasinghe <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is a jira at [1] in ODE to track this issue.
>
> [1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-897
>
> Thanks,
> Waruna
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Milinda Pathirage <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> There's a issue in ODE which cause this behavior. The correct approach is
>> as follows:
>> 1. If there are running instances and process is retired, service will be
>> still there to serve incoming request for those running instances. If
>> process instantiation request comes to this service, exception will be throw
>> from ODE and user will see a SOAP fault.
>> 2. If there aren't any active instances we should remove the service.
>> 3. If there were active instances at the time of retiring and then we
>> undeploy the process; at this time we should remove the service.
>> Currently I am working on ODE issues.
>> Thanks
>> Milinda
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dennis,
>>>
>>> Ideal requirement is that
>>>
>>> "for retiring we have to figure out a way to remove the service (so it
>>> is not listed, and not invokable) but have to make sure currently
>>> running process will continue to work. "
>>>
>>> 1. We have to think how to do this? At least open a issue
>>>
>>> 2. But, as far as I understood, the issue is that if you retire and
>>> then undeploy afterward, service is till around. In that case all
>>> processes have to be killed and service remove, as IMO undeploy takes
>>> precedence.
>>>
>>> 3. Now if a process has been retried and if all processes has
>>> finished, do we detect that and remove the service? that is a weaker
>>> version of #1
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Srinath
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Denis Weerasiri <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Denis,
>>> >>
>>> >> This is the service associate with BPEL process?
>>> >
>>> > yep. Not the external services.
>>> >>
>>> >> If BPEL is
>>> >> undeployed, service has to be removed as well?
>>> >
>>> > yp. This works. But when a BPEL is retired, I'm not sure what should
>>> > actually happen, as there may be running instances available etc. So
>>> > users
>>> > might need to get service-mgt details.
>>> >>
>>> >> Is there a difference between undeploy and retiring?
>>> >
>>> > Retiring means can't invoke the process, but the created instances are
>>> > still
>>> > available. Undeploying means completely removing the process artifacts
>>> > and
>>> > create instances as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks
>>> >> Srinath
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Denis Weerasiri <[email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Hi,
>>> >> > Regarding https://wso2.org/jira/browse/CARBON-7935
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If a process is retired, should the relevant service be removed from
>>> >> > service
>>> >> > management?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> > Denis
>>> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > Denis Weerasiri
>>> >> > Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com,
>>> >> > email: [email protected] cell: +94 (71) 684-4450
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>>> >> >
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>>> >>   Senior Software Architect, WSO2 Inc.
>>> >>   Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa
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>>> > Denis
>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> > Denis Weerasiri
>>> > Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com,
>>> > email: [email protected] cell: +94 (71) 684-4450
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>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ============================
>>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>>>   Senior Software Architect, WSO2 Inc.
>>>   Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa
>>>   Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>   Member, Lanka Software Foundation
>>>   Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
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>>
>> --
>> Milinda Pathirage
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>> http://wso2.com
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>>
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Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
  Senior Software Architect, WSO2 Inc.
  Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa
  Member, Apache Software Foundation
  Member, Lanka Software Foundation
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