+1. You should use the dashboard wherever applicable for a real requirement. Replacing a simple JSP with a gadget portal may not be appropriate.
Also, when it comes to system stats etc. we should show the view of a cluster, since on Mars, the single node view may not be that valuable. Azeez On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Nuwan Bandara <nu...@wso2.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > IMO, we are simply ignoring the importance of having the dashboard (and the > whole gadget based architecture) in our products. I do agree that deploying > sample gadgets is not the right way, but we should have a set of gadgets > which visualize, certain important KPIs, statistics as defaults. Also we > need to come up with some important use-cases like displaying logs, tasks > (in BPS), Health of proxies (in ESB) etc, create gadgets out of them and > deploy in the gadget repository. > > Also, whatever middle-where product it is, you need monitoring (not to an > Advance level) and visualization. And the important fact is Monitoring > needs, always change. We cannot cater to the changing needs via a static JSP > based solution easily. So I believe our dashboard features add some richness > to any of our product. > > I do agree that there are some issues related to the dashboard, such as low > responsiveness in the UI and limited real-estate to start with. IMO, what we > should do is not to remove the feature from the product but to make it > better and more usable. Last few weeks I have done considerable improvements > to the dashboard UI, and also layout customization will be available soon > for the product based mode. > > So I encourage all the product teams to try out the dashboard at Trunk, and > if there are still noticeable issues, please do report. So we can get those > fixed ASAP. > > Thanks & Regards, > /Nuwan > > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Senaka Fernando <sen...@wso2.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Indika Kumara <ind...@wso2.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Anjana Fernando <anj...@wso2.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > Yes, I also think the non-gadget view was much nicer and much more >>>>> readable. >>>>> > The thing is, the gadget UIs were simply added to these management >>>>> console >>>>> > just for the sake of having a Gadget based UI, not because of any >>>>> real >>>>> > requirement. >>>>> >>>>> Well .. Also for the question of you asking, why would users write >>>>> gadgets in DSS .. simply because we have the feature and we can >>>>> exploit it. >>>> >>>> >>>> If you think like that, you'd end up with many features nobody needs. >>>> >>>> + The acceptable way of selecting features is to select the features >>> that have a value to users - the other features are optional and are >>> installed as needed.[1] >>> >> >> +1 Indika. You were a tad bit faster than me to point out the same thing. >> We have what IBM have, and perhaps something that's more powerful (our >> feature manager). But, we have not gone that extra-mile. However, I'm sure >> that there are plans to improve this in the future. >> >> Thanks, >> Senaka. >> >>> >>> [1] >>> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-soa-esbarch/#N10108 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Carbon-dev mailing list >>> Carbon-dev@wso2.org >>> https://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/carbon-dev >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Senaka Fernando* >> Product Manager - WSO2 Governance Registry; >> Associate Technical Lead; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com* >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org >> >> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com >> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 >> Linked-In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/senakafernando >> >> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Carbon-dev mailing list >> Carbon-dev@wso2.org >> https://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/carbon-dev >> >> > > > -- > Thanks & Regards, > > Nuwan Bandara > Software Engineer > > WSO2 Inc. | http://wso2.com > lean . enterprise . middleware > > http://www.nuwanbando.com > > <http://www.nuwanbando.com/> > > _______________________________________________ > Carbon-dev mailing list > Carbon-dev@wso2.org > https://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/carbon-dev > > -- *Afkham Azeez* Senior Software Architect & Senior Manager; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com, * * *Member; Apache Software Foundation; **http://www.apache.org/*<http://www.apache.org/> * email: **az...@wso2.com* <az...@wso2.com>* cell: +94 77 3320919 blog: **http://blog.afkham.org* <http://blog.afkham.org>* twitter: **http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez*<http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez> * linked-in: **http://lk.linkedin.com/in/afkhamazeez* * * *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware*
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