On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Anjana Fernando <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Amila Suriarachchi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > But having all the security related stuff in on place improve the
> usability
> > in platform wise.
> >
> > For a example if a user wants to sign and encrypt to secure a message are
> > you going to add that to
> > the DSS to improve the usability?
>
> Ah well no :) .. I mean .. that's why I mentioned it as a tradeoff
> between two, and not going to any extremes .. I'm totally OK for
> having it as a generic feature, and I understand your point, in that
> case, we just need to have a better UI, like as in case for securing a
> message with sign and encrypt we have a nice security wizard option to
> do so, if we can have the same kind of functionality for this need as
> well, that would be perfect, rather than user having to specifically
> know a certain Axis2 parameter name to enter.
>

+1.

thanks,
Amila.

>
> Cheers,
> Anjana.
>
> >
> > If you think like that you may end up having a set products which does
> the
> > same thing in product specific way.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Amila.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Anjana.
> >>
> >> > what I really worry about this permission thing.
> >> >
> >> > In other words there are three ways assign to authorization to
> >> > service/operations in carbon.
> >> >
> >> > 1. Use operation/service level parameter to specify permission, then
> >> > assign
> >> > permission to role.
> >> > 2. With UT directly assign role to service
> >> > 3. For ESB proxy services use entitlement mediator.
> >> >
> >> > But I think what we need is a one simple unique way to assign roles to
> >> > services/operations independent of authentication.
> >> >
> >> > thanks,
> >> > Amila.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Anjana.
> >> >>
> >> >> > In the way you have told, how users suppose to assign the
> permission
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > role. is this permission get appeared in the permission tree?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > thanks,
> >> >> > Amila.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> >> Dimuthu
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Anjana Fernando <
> [email protected]>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Srinath Perera <
> [email protected]>
> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>> > Others == IS guys , just FYI
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Yep OK.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Cheers,
> >> >> >>> Anjana.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Anjana Fernando
> >> >> >>> > <[email protected]>
> >> >> >>> > wrote:
> >> >> >>> >> Hi,
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Srinath Perera
> >> >> >>> >> <[email protected]>
> >> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>> >>> Hi Anjana,
> >> >> >>> >>>
> >> >> >>> >>> What you need is to say something like
> >> >> >>> >>>
> >> >> >>> >>> "only admin role can invoke updateUserOperation in a Data
> >> >> >>> >>> Service"
> >> >> >>> >>>
> >> >> >>> >>> Am I right?
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Yes, exactly.
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>>
> >> >> >>> >>> I was under the impression we already have this feature
> (Please
> >> >> >>> >>> talk
> >> >> >>> >>> to IS guys). If not, it is matter of writing a Axis2 Handler
> >> >> >>> >>>
> >> >> >>> >>> 1.  Please do not define this within DSS only
> >> >> >>> >>> 2.  If it is not there, this is useful across the platform,
> so
> >> >> >>> >>> negotiate with others, but if you going to do that, you must
> do
> >> >> >>> >>> it
> >> >> >>> >>> at
> >> >> >>> >>> carbon level and check in as a componant and get others to
> use
> >> >> >>> >>> it.
> >> >> >>> >>> 3. Config info should go in axis2.xml I think.
> >> >> >>> >>>
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Sure OK, will talk to others and see.
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >>> >> Anjana.
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>> --Srinath
> >> >> >>> >>>
> >> >> >>> >>>
> >> >> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Anjana Fernando
> >> >> >>> >>> <[email protected]>
> >> >> >>> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>> >>>> Hi,
> >> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >> >>> >>>> We've a requirements in DSS to restrict access to operations
> >> >> >>> >>>> for
> >> >> >>> >>>> specific user roles. We use a similar method to do content
> >> >> >>> >>>> filtering
> >> >> >>> >>>> by associating a required role to a specific data output
> >> >> >>> >>>> field.
> >> >> >>> >>>> So a
> >> >> >>> >>>> possibility to achieve the same behaviour for service
> >> >> >>> >>>> operation
> >> >> >>> >>>> invocation,
> >> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >> >>> >>>> * Use the data service's associated external services.xml to
> >> >> >>> >>>> define
> >> >> >>> >>>> these restrictions for service operations.
> >> >> >>> >>>> * Use the data service description file (.dbs file) to
> define
> >> >> >>> >>>> these
> >> >> >>> >>>> properties as we do with content filtering.
> >> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >> >>> >>>> The editing the .dbs maybe more convenient to the user in a
> >> >> >>> >>>> way
> >> >> >>> >>>> that,
> >> >> >>> >>>> then the data service is self contained and it will not
> depend
> >> >> >>> >>>> on
> >> >> >>> >>>> another service.xml file, to define such behaviour.
> Currently
> >> >> >>> >>>> the
> >> >> >>> >>>> services.xml in data service is mainly used for special
> >> >> >>> >>>> functionality
> >> >> >>> >>>> such as setting axis2 service parameters, for making it an
> >> >> >>> >>>> admin/hidden service and so on.
> >> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >> >>> >>>> I was talking with Amila earlier and his idea is, this
> should
> >> >> >>> >>>> be
> >> >> >>> >>>> a
> >> >> >>> >>>> general feature that should be common to all services and
> this
> >> >> >>> >>>> type
> >> >> >>> >>>> of
> >> >> >>> >>>> functionality should be defined in the security wizard. So
> >> >> >>> >>>> will
> >> >> >>> >>>> such
> >> >> >>> >>>> a
> >> >> >>> >>>> feature be added in the near by future? .. or shall we
> >> >> >>> >>>> continue
> >> >> >>> >>>> by
> >> >> >>> >>>> defining our own functionality into DSS. Any thoughts are
> >> >> >>> >>>> welcome.
> >> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >> >>> >>>> Cheers,
> >> >> >>> >>>> Anjana.
> >> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >> >>> >>>> --
> >> >> >>> >>>> Anjana Fernando
> >> >> >>> >>>> Software Engineer
> >> >> >>> >>>> WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
> >> >> >>> >>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
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> >> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >> >>> >>>
> >> >> >>> >>>
> >> >> >>> >>>
> >> >> >>> >>> --
> >> >> >>> >>> ============================
> >> >> >>> >>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
> >> >> >>> >>>   Senior Software Architect, WSO2 Inc.
> >> >> >>> >>>   Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa
> >> >> >>> >>>   Member, Apache Software Foundation
> >> >> >>> >>>   Research Scientist, Lanka Software Foundation
> >> >> >>> >>>   Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >>> >>>
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> --
> >> >> >>> >> Anjana Fernando
> >> >> >>> >> Software Engineer
> >> >> >>> >> WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
> >> >> >>> >> lean.enterprise.middleware
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > --
> >> >> >>> > ============================
> >> >> >>> > Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
> >> >> >>> >   Senior Software Architect, WSO2 Inc.
> >> >> >>> >   Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa
> >> >> >>> >   Member, Apache Software Foundation
> >> >> >>> >   Research Scientist, Lanka Software Foundation
> >> >> >>> >   Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >>> Anjana Fernando
> >> >> >>> Software Engineer
> >> >> >>> WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
> >> >> >>> lean.enterprise.middleware
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Anjana Fernando
> >> >> Software Engineer
> >> >> WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
> >> >> lean.enterprise.middleware
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Anjana Fernando
> >> Software Engineer
> >> WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
> >> lean.enterprise.middleware
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Anjana Fernando
> Software Engineer
> WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
> lean.enterprise.middleware
>
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