On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dimuthu Leelarathne <dimut...@wso2.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Amila Suriarachchi <am...@wso2.com>wrote:
>
>> Role is a set of permissions (i.e resouceid + action). Resource id or
>> resource is always specific to a system. There for a role is defined for a
>> given system. Therefore it is a external roles is a confusing idea.
>>
>
>> And also we need to have a clear definition about adminRole. If I engaged
>> UT for a service and set a role like myRole, and invoke the service as admin
>> (who is in adminRole) it won't work. Same thing happens with XCMAL as well.
>>
>>
> It is wrong to assume that admin can access all deployed services. Admin is
> the admin for all admin console.
>

In General Admin means a user who can access every thing. In this case I
think it is better to rename it as adminConsoleAdmin and
AdminConsoleAdminRole.

thanks,
Amila.


>
> thanks,
> dimuthu
>
>
>
>> thanks,
>> Amila.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://wso2.org/jira/browse/CARBON-9195
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hasini.
>>>
>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Amila.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Hasini Gunasinghe 
>>>>> <has...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the understanding that I have regarding this. Please correct
>>>>>> if anything is wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Differentiation of roles as external or internal is based on whether
>>>>>> we manage user roles in the user store itself or in internal UM database 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> a hybrid manner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For an example, we find the above use case with LDAP user store where
>>>>>> we can either manage roles in LDAP itself or in internal JDBC database 
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> hybrid manner (basically when user store is read only).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In that case, internal role means: if a role is managed in internal UM
>>>>>> database in a hybrid manner.
>>>>>>                    external role means: if a role is managed in LDAP
>>>>>> user store - can be either embedded LDAP or external LDAP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Roles defined in embedded LDAP are not external.
>>>>>
>>>>> It really doesn't matter whether the underlying implementation is JDBC
>>>>> or LDAP. Users should not be worrying about underlying implementation.
>>>>>
>>>>> tx,
>>>>> dimuthul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think above mail is related to issue:
>>>>>> https://wso2.org/jira/browse/CARBON-9195. The issue reported there is
>>>>>> the default behavior according to above understanding.
>>>>>> Because JDBC user store manager handles roles in hybrid manner only
>>>>>> when "read only" property is set to true in user-mgt.xml.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Hasini.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Amila Jayasekara <ami...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do we define whether a particular role is internal or external ?
>>>>>>> (Role type)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After a chat with Pavithra, we came to following conclusion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If a role is defined within a server we treat those as internal
>>>>>>> roles.
>>>>>>> If a server reads role information from some other user store we
>>>>>>> consider those as external roles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If above definition is not correct, please advice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> AmilaJ
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