Dear Elpidio Latorilla,

Great idea.

However, let a person's identity be not connected with the hospital (hope not the 
hospital of birth).
Following the telephone nos example is a good one.
We must not make things complicated. 
A very large number of countries are planning to have citizen's identity card with a 
unique number for each citizen. We in India, are thinking of such a scheme. The id 
cards will be smartcards and you may be able to use them as auto id etc in C2X.
Hope we will have a smartcard interface in C2X.


Regards.                                 
Atul Asthana
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======= At 2004-03-08, 11:05:00 Elpidio Latorilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =======

>Hi all,
>
>while preparing some documents for the 2nd generation Care2x, I remembered the 
>initial idea of a global PID. This should be an ID for a person which must be 
>unique globally.
>
>Does anyone know of any work on this, proposals, thesis, dissertations, or 
>working protocols? I would be glad to know the links to the documents. Please 
>let me know.
>
>Anyway, I noticed the VISA credit card system and its numbering system.
>Each number is global and is unique to an account, well, a person can have 
>several accounts. But we can modify the idea to one-number-one-person system.
>Each number has 16 digits grouped in 4 digits: e.g.
>
>6345  6655  0005  7789
>
>To accomodate this, the pid field for care2x must be modified to 16 digits 
>(which is very easy to do).
>
>Now, lets look further to putting some intelligence on the number:
>
>Lets say the first 4-digit group is exclusively for coding the country where 
>the person was first registered. Should we use an ISO country numbering?
>I could not take the first 2 digits only because there are more than 100 
>countries, so lets take 4-digits. That would give us 9,999 possibilities 
>which would mean many unused numbers. Also, to avoid problems with the 2-of-5 
>interlaced barcode format, the first digit should never be zero. So the  
>number of the first  person should look like this:
>
>1001 0001 0000 0001 
>
>That would mean: country 1, hospital 1, person 1.
>
>The country coding should not be a problem, we just use the ISO standards.
>
>The second 4-digit group should be exclusive for coding the hospital in the 
>country. This numbering should be done officially by some kind of official 
>national standards commision (or something similar) of the country.  The 
>second group will allow for 9,999 hospitals in one country.  Does anyone know 
>of a country who has more than that number of hospitals? (or is likely to 
>have more than that figure in the future?)
>
>The remaining 8 digits are to number the person. That will allow a maximum of 
>99,999,999 (almost 100 million) persons for each hospital.
>
>I admit the above is very simplistic. Please let me know of your opinion or 
>own ideas.
>
>If VISA can do it for global credit system, why couldn't we for the healthcare 
>system?
>
>Time for Care2x foundation to come?
>
>Thanks
>Elpidio
>
>
>
>
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