JA> As nobody else, besides 7 other developers (including Elpidio), seem JA> to be interested in Care2x as a scientific project, I did not see it JA> as an interesting subject to report in the Care2x developers mail list. I too am interested. That's why I do not mind receiving double Care2x mail: one from the Developers list, one from the Entwickler list.
JA> If not possible at all, please unsubscribe me from the Care2x email JA> lists and take my name out of the Care2x project, as I will not be JA> part of it anymore. I do not want to further endorse any devious JA> personal projects of any particular individual, be him Wilfried JA> Goedert, or any other "gestapo" personality. I also did a search -not in Google- but in Medline (I was looking for published articles) and came up with null results. After the Medline query I decided Antas was an obfuscated nickname (Santa, Satan, Antas)... Now it seems that the name "Morais J. Antas" is real. I don't really see any harm done by Dr. Goedert. If it came out of curiosity then to me it's OK. I for one am extremely curious regarding the person. One does not usually see such clarity/expertise. I hope Dr. Antas reconsiders leaving the list. I believe the group would be at a great loss without him. -----Mensaje original----- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Wilfried Goedert Enviado el: Lunes, 22 de Marzo de 2004 10:26 Para: J. Antas Asunto: Re: [Care2002-developers] ARE Care2x project members BEING SPIED ? Hello J. Antas, I DID NOT SPY YOU OR OTHERS! NO CONTROL OF MAILS OR SOMETHING! I ONLY USED GOOGLE Sorry for this big letters but words like gestapo need for others a bit attention. to read my comments. Jose is posting very often new and good resources to the group. So its legal to search google to get the information where this is discussed at other places. To speed the knowledge transfer is the possitive thing of the internet. am Montag, 22. M�rz 2004 um 14:08 schrieben Sie: JA> Wilfried Goedert wrote: >> There must be another Antas be in the Care2x Team. I found in a >> conference listing of taguspark.pt this listing: JA> Nice move! Wilfried Goedert is now reading Care2x team members non JA> public emails, i.e., emails which were not directed to him in the JA> first place. What kind of emails? You are very wrong. I go at a regular base to google and this kann be found there. It is official and free available. No hack nothing. And to the mails they all are going via servers where i have no access. Also i do not offer care2x.de mail adresses. For myself i use the sourceforge mail adress or the gotodoc adress. The only thing is that during google Browsing the name Morais was new to me. http://www.taguspark.pt/html/downloads/listadosparticipantes.xls you can find it easyly if you follow the google link. I only searched for care2x links first. as i found it i looked for "care2x antas" http://www.google.de/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=car e2x+antas JA> As he controls the german Care2x server and he has the possibility JA> to be a "voyeur" of the Care2x team members Nothing to do with care2x.de server. Elpidio has access for it and mirror only. in the background some have their folders to do experimental work. Elpidio "do very good" not to open access the .com, .net, .org adresses. I fully agree with him in that point. >> Morais Antas Care2x.org, Sistemas Abertos de Informa��o Hospitalar JA> "Care2x.org - Sistemas Abertos de Informa��o Hospitalar" is the JA> official name of the Care2x project in Portugal. JA> Morais Antas is J. Antas and while in the condition of promoter of JA> the Care2x project he uses the email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did nothing said about any mails. There is only the thing that i found this name Morais at google in combination with care2x. JA> Other members of the Care2x team were present at the Tagus Park JA> Conference, Lisbon, Portugal. As far as I non of them were present JA> at the reunion that Wilfried organized in Germany. >> Is there any presentation available? JA> There were several presentations. Available? What for? JA> It was mainly a presentation from and to the portuguese government JA> (and EU representatives). In that conference the portuguese minister JA> of science and some other government officials presented the EU and JA> portuguese 2004-2008 plan for scientific I&D. JA> As nobody else, besides 7 other developers (including Elpidio), seem JA> to be interested in Care2x as a scientific project, I did not see it JA> as an interesting subject to report in the Care2x developers mail list. I try to look forward the whole time to bring scientific and research structures in. JA> *I am asking Elpidio Latorilla at this time to remove me from the JA> Care2x domain and to erase the records of my [EMAIL PROTECTED] email JA> address as I do not trust it anymore* A good idea to use the sourceforge mail adresses or to use an own by your domain. JA> *I strongly urge other members from this developers list to do the JA> same* Absolutely no doubt to it. JA> I think that we should send a strong message to "gestapo" Wilfried JA> and stop his spy activities. Thanks to that friendly words to a German :-) I wouldn't like to flame again. I do experiments with spiderssince a long time. There are good projects that are able to sample 1 Mio pages per day. So every hour in the internet 2000 medical studies took place. Open for everyone. There is a special point in care2x. The search function. If you like to concentrate the spiders and building P2P networks with care2x for medical content. Searchable. Possibly in future with semantics of the Semantic Web. This can be a project in 10 years. JA> I do trust Elpidio. So I am asking him: JA> 1. could you please take me out of this? ? JA> 2. could we base Care2x in something more neutral like Sourceforge JA> or similar? It is based completely there. The Domains realy are not important IMHO. The Domains are hosted only to place Webpage infos or making some Demos or these things. Giving Services like Newsserver to forward Mails from SF into archives. JA> 3. could our email domains be out of Wilfried's, or any other single JA> person hands? There are no mails in my hand. Also that thing with jabber is no mail address. Its absolutely independent from care2x.de or me. Everyone is allowed to set up a newsserver and let them communicate decentralized. Same with the Jabber Server. All applications i did are absolutely independent. So i host no forum to care2x. It focus to one resource. I like to use Newsservers or other things. JA> If not possible at all, please unsubscribe me from the Care2x email JA> lists and take my name out of the Care2x project, as I will not be JA> part of it anymore. I do not want to further endorse any devious JA> personal projects of any particular individual, be him Wilfried JA> Goedert, or any other "gestapo" personality. Hmmm as i explained i used not some care2x things. Nothing with mails or something else. If you are going to the internet today, You must be aware, that all of your action also of your private live is noticed somewhere. I did only used google for it and i stopped by your name. As you are posting very good stuff. I think i am not the only one who is searching google with "antas care2x" A good tip is to use Martin Krungs resources. His first Knoppix CD was an artist project www.tracenoizer.org It was builded up for disinformation on demand using the google database. This project have international awards for digital art. 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