RE: [Care2002-developers] about patients and personnel in the same table

[Bulent Potur M.D. Obgyn.]

Dear Group,

The files were comppresed as tgz and attached to my original message. I write this general message because I think there may be other listmates who may not be aware of the attachment like my dear colleague Mauricio.

Regards,

 

Bulent POTUR MD Obgyn

http://medpages.obgyn.net/bpotur

Bulent Potur MD Obgyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Mauricio,

The programme was attached to my original mail
I am resending it  to you. Though the one the group received was a tgz compressed file. This is the first message rejected by the list server because the files were in zip format. If you did not delete the original file coming from the list you can recover the tgz file from it.

Regards.

 

Bulent POTUR MD Obgyn

http://medpages.obgyn.net/bpotur

 

Mauricio Casasbuenas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear Dr Lopur,

I'm a Medical doctor, specialized in Health Administration. I am also an amateur programmer, and have worked for some time with Access and may be I can help a little with you application.

The same as Elpido  has expressed, and the way you have described the program, it would be a very useful tool as a stand alone application or within a program as Care2x. But if I had my way I would put in Care2x so as to make our "toy" more useful than what it is today.

As to using the national number I would suggest that you do that with you program or any other program that is developed since that makes it easy to find a patient. The problem with this approach is when the patient is a new born or an infant. In my country the government is implementing an Id number that is used throughout life (until now the there was different number for a person during his childhood until he becomes an adult (18 years old).

If you will, you can send your toy and I will gladly play a while with it! I might give you some ideas. My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I also beg that this Bairam shall bring calm, peace and happiness to the whole care2x community and humanity.

 

Mauricio Casasbuenas

 

 

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De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Bulent Potur M.D. Obgyn.
Enviado el: S�bado, 13 de Noviembre de 2004 03:52 a.m.
Para: care2x
Asunto: Re: [Care2002-developers] about patients and personnel in the same table

 

Hi,

I am an amateur programmer but also the end user. I

have developped my own private office management

program during the last 15 years. As wrote before it

started as a cobol program I revised it many times,

then for the last 8 years it was revised many times as

a ms access program.

Regarding the current discussion, name and surname

fields are separately designed. The first key is the

surname then the given names are arranged in order as

I am a gynecologist and all my patients are women then

I note the spouse name, birth place, birth year in the

search screen. Why? Because when the number of the

patients increases there will be an extremely high

number of patients with the same given name and

surname so adding spouse name and birth place would

really ease things to correctly identify a patient on

the search list.

For care 2x adding the field national id number is

genious. So it is unique. When such a programme is

used nationwide it will be a marvelous thing to find

data about some patient anywhere in the country. In

Turkey the national id number is implemented for

several years now. So if you can record the national

id number in the first encounter there will not be a

list. You will se only one record. So putting the

patients or personels' data in the same database even

nationwide should not be a problem.

I think we, the listmates, are here because we belive

in the same things at least in this area. Yes we

develop a program  or a part of the program as the

need arises. I must confess that I am not even a

novice in C, pHp, perl, mysql or pgsql. But I beg the

listmates, especially the gurus of these programming

languages of this list especially  if they have a

basic knowlege of ms access, to study my personal

private cabinet management programme. To notice how a

patient is searched, the macros of boxes, What I

needed as formes during these years. How ultrasound

report calculates fetal age when a bipariatal diameter

, femur length, etc  is given. how ultrasound form and

obstetrical form calculates the expected date of

confinement. Also for those with lesser experience

with ms access to look at the forms in design mode how

some things are hidden on the screen and visible when

printed.

I am sorry this has been like an ms access

advertisment. But when I wrote the program first in

cobol it would look like a programme consisting of

lines and letters on a black screen. Working with

keyboard function keys and letters in a text console

with no mouse support.   But I had liked that very

much. Because though it seemed silly (And it may look

like it now too) even not a toy with commercial value,

it was MINE.

Yesterday I introduced the Turkish module of Care2x to

Turkish medical community via yahoogroups as a

Present for the Ramadan Bairam from me. Ramadan

Bairam, for the non muslim list mates, is a three days

of Holiday after the month of Ramadan, a sacred month

of daily fasting.  In the end that is Bairam, which is

also called Sugar Bairam in Turkey may be compared to

Christmass week. There are many presents and feasts

and visits to the good old relatives.

So I noticed that no one has looked at my program from

this list. Because no one subscribed to obgyn_int

@yahoogroups.com in recent days. I decided to give you

a Bairam present . I send it as an attachment both in

English and Turkish. The English one is modified for

teaching purposes. The Turkish one looks like

something unintelligible or with many undocumented

functions. The version I use currently has

additionally medical procedures pricelist of Turkish

Medical association and drug prices and other data

which appear on a pop up window when you click the

name of a drug which you wrote on a prescription.

I celebrate the Holy Ramadan Bairam of all muslim

listmates. I beg that this Bairam shall bring calm,

peace and happines to the whole of humanity.

In a way aren't we all kids playing with toys?

May God Bless You All !!!

B|lent Potur MD Ovgyn

 

 

Elpidio Latorilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

    Hi Daniel Ignat,

 

    thanks for the good ideas. They are all correct

solutions.

 

    The final decision lies on the hands of Walter and

his team. If they need to

    add more controls on the search page, they should

do it. The basic principle

    here is:

 

    " Do not do what Care2x wants you to do, but do

what is needed to solve your

    own problem ".

 

    Since a problem could have many variants, the

solution could have many

    variants too. If it is proven (in practice) that

one's variant applies to

    most cases, it will be taken over to the main

release versions.

 

    In any case, I would like to remind all of us that

when we design a solution

    to a problem, let us think like a non-programmer

or non-technical person

    because the end-user of care2x does not think like

a programmer.

 

    Best regards,

    Elpidio

 

 

    On Friday 12 November 2004 02:24, Daniel Ignat

wrote:

    > Hi!

    >

    > I saw that also and it seems to me a little bit

    > annoying to mix personnel and patients.. but you

    > also are right about duplicate data if someone

    > from the personnel gets sick..

    >

    > so, my suggestion is this (for the main

developers

    > of care2x): is it possible to put an unchecked

    > 'check box' in the 'search person' form, so that

    > you may 'include', *if you want* the personnel

    > data (as an exception), in the search query?..

    >

    > or maybe better, 2 radio buttons:

    > - only personnel, only patients

    > this way you will not have to look for all the

    > patients (including the filter) either when

looking

    > for personnel..

    >

    > it is not difficult for the developer who has

done

    > that form, but it would be a great feature for

the

    > user. there is only one check box with a text,

then

    > a filter in the sql query..

 

 

           

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