Glen and to the care2x developers,

it was a shock for me this morning, that my holiday for friday was
cancelt. We have to do minimum 4 extra operation of patients. After
doing my job i will suddenly travel to Berlin. Glen read the mail
below if you have any possibilities that we come with the registered
meeting people in contact, provide them with the necessary contact
information...

So with some help i found a student who is representing healthcare and Open
Source related at this meeting. Open Source activists may be
astonished the he is now the (only) one who is representing Open
Source: See a list of the participants (not complete):
http://www.unicttaskforce.org/perl/documents.pl?do=download;id=689

I found a sponsor for his travel, what like to be in the background.

Daniel Jahre (27 years old) who is doing this job will represent the ROCKLinux
organisation and care2x.de. Some know him as student from the
technical university Chemnitz. He is there in the organisation
commitee for the popular Chemnitz Linux day and the devoloper of the
the special Knoppix Chemnitz Linux day edition.

I hope he get some contact to the persons below for me. He can do all
self responsible and i am shure that he is doing his job very well.

For those who join the meeting:
In attachment there is a picture of Daniel. Daniel is a handycap
person. He is sitting in a wheelchair.


Dr. Joan DZENOWAGIS     Project Manager, Health InterNetwork    World Health 
Organization
Mr. Henning WEGENER     Chairman, Permanent Monitoring Panel on Information 
Security    World Federation of Scientists
Mr. Thomas GANSWINDT    Member of the Corporate Executive Committee     Siemens 
AG
Mr. Tadao TAKAHASHI     Director General        Information Society Institute 
(Brazil)
Ms.  Lohrasb AHMADIAN   Chief Executive Director        Radin Institute for 
Family Health Education and Promotion (USA)
Mr. Christian BAUER     Programme Development   World Summit Award
Mr. Ralph BENDRATH      Chief Editor    Heinrich B�ll Foundation
Ms. Monika ERMERT       Freelance Journalist    Heise Publishing Company
Ms. Ilonka FEDKE        Managing Editor Berliner Magazine
Ms. Barbara MALINA      Head, Section for Education and 
Communication/Information       German Commission for UNESCO
Ms. Stefania MILAN      Journalist      Inter Press Service
Mr. Nikola WOHLAIB      Journalist      Germany
Mr. Kirill SMIRNOV      Government Relations Manager    Microsoft
Ms. Monia Derouiche MOKADDEM    Member  Young Doctors Without Borders, Tunisia
Ms. Lucia LISINGER      Project Manager World Summit Awards

For those who join the meeting:
In attachment there is a picture of Daniel. Daniel is a handycap
person. He is sitting in a wheelchair.
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
His jabber UIN (not mail adress): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For suggestions or to wish him good luck his mobile phone: 0049 1773367222

In the background a student who is working inside the German Foreign
Office is helping to coordinate special interests.

You can contact me at my mobile: 0049 175 9628128

Thanks and regards

Wilfried G�dert



> Wilfried,
> 
> The purposes of RFC 3881 are to (1) define data to be communicated for
> evidence of compliance with, or violations of, a healthcare enterprise's
> security and privacy policies and objectives, (2) depict the data that would
> potentially reside in a common audit engine or database, (3) depict data
> that allows useful queries against audited events, and (4) provide a common
> reference standard for healthcare IT standards development organizations. 
> 
> 
> The RFC 3881 XML schema was developed by collaboration, not a model-based
> approach like what HL7 uses for v3 messages.  Therefore I cannot recommend
> that it be used or extended for any other purposes than those stated in the
> RFC.  An implementation guide incorporating RFC 3881 has also been published
> by the IHE organization.
> 
> 
> Instead, I strongly recommend that you embrace the HL7 v3 Reference
> Information Model and message development methodologies, and use the ebXML
> and WSDL/SOAP draft standards from trial implementation as the transport.
> While the text of HL7 standards is not free, HL7 v3 would contribute a lot
> of intellectual capital to the Care2X project.  Joining HL7, either than
> main body or your national affiliate, is one way to get ready access to the
> standards. 
> 
> 
> For yourself, I recommend that you contact the chair of HL7 Germany, Dr.
> Bernd Blobel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  He is deeply involved in European
> healthcare informatics efforts. 
> 
> 
> Attending HL7 meetings is a great way to make additional contacts.  The next
> HL7 working group meeting is in Orlando, Florida, in January -- a great time
> to visit Florida.  And the next meeting after that is at the beginning of
> May in Noorwijkerhout, The Netherlands.  See www.hl7.org for details.
> 
> 
> Best,
> Glen
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wilfried G�dert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 00:29
> To: Elpidio Latorilla
> Cc: Marshall Glen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re[2]: [Care2002-developers] Berlin United Nation conference this
> weekend - was: Did Siemens released an HXP protocol of its own?
> 
> 
> Hello group:
> I posted yesterday my Registration Form about the United Nations
> Informations and Communications Technologies Task Force meeting to this
> group.
> This meeting will take place today, tomorrow and at friday inside German
> Foreign Office Berlin. There will be more than 300 registered Persons. About
> the special contacts i write below in this mail.
> 
> See this Link to read about the agenda and other related things:
> http://www.unicttaskforce.org/
> 
> If someone of the group like also to join the UN meeting he can phone me at
> 0049 175 9628 128 possibly you have to try it very often, because i am
> working today in hospital and arive tomorrow Berlin.
> I checked it with the German ministry (German Foreign Office Berlin) if
> someone comes from the care2x group or healthcare related that he will
> registered for this conference. More infos after phoning me.
> 
>>> So, guess what? It seems that Siemens just did the same as Elpidio.
>>> But this time it was done the right way. The definition is related to
> 
>>> XML and looks only related to auditing procedures in healthcare...
> 
>>> but auditing encompasses all what you can do in a health information
> system.
>>>
>>> The paper has just been released as a Internet Engineering Task Force
>>> (www.ietf.org) request-for-comment (RFC) number 3881:
>>>
>>> RFC: 3881
>>> Author: G. Marshall / Siemens
>>> Category: Informational
>>> Date: September 2004
>>> Link: ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3881.txt
>>
> 
>> If one looks carefully at the xml schema, one can see that it is much
> 
>> similar to SOAP rather than xml-rpc.  So, one might better repost the
> 
>> above comment to the SOAP developers. Or better still, talk directly
> 
>> to G. Marshall of Siemens.
> 
> yesterday night i phoned with Glen Marschall. He gave me this link of the
> RSNA to reviw some more information.
> 
> http://www.rsna.org/IHE/tf/ihe_tf_index.shtml
> 
> We also talked about G�tz Lohmans HL7 apache module and the possibillities.
> It seems to me that Glen is quite interested.
> 
>> In any case, the hxp will not suffer. If it is ignored for
> 
>> inter-application data sharing, then it will just revert to its
> 
>> original intention, and that is inter-care2x data sharing. If RFC3881
> 
>> or whatever they are called  becomes useful enough (not just from
> 
>> technical viewpoint), then hey,  thats good, lets use it!
> 
> Inside the agenda of the UN task force meeting there is Session II: Policy
> and Regulatory Issues  Mr. Thomas Ganswindt, Member of the Corporate
> Executive Committee, Siemens AG in the panel discussion.
> http://www.unicttaskforce.org/perl/showdoc.pl?id=1422
> 
> Is it a try, to talk in front of session II with the Open Source, Linux
> groups about this rfc3881 to support it?
> 
> As i understand it yesterday in the phone talk with Glen in the right way
> there are good contacts to the HL7 version 3 teams and to the Dicom
> standardisation. I hope i get more infos in nearest future from Glen. The
> support he offered yesterday is great. Thanks at this place to Glen.
> 
>> Btw: regarding Sun Tzu, did he ever mention in his book that there are
> 
>> armchair warriors and real warriors?  I'm just curious.
> 
> As attachment my personal application as tif from the German government for
> the UN task force conference. With the additional pointing to healthcare and
> ICT's
> 
>>
> 
>> Still the same,
>> Elpidio
> 
> Regards
> 
> Wilfried G�dert
> 
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