HI Kaloyan, just by accident I came across another one just now
http://www.pradosoft.com/ they won a Zend coding contest once, and just revamped their website. all gpl as well. rgds, reinier On Thursday 29 June 2006 13:31, Kaloyan Raev wrote: > Hi Reinier, > > Thanks for the framework hints. > I will take a look about these two. > > I am evaluating different frameworks following these criteria: > - gpl-compatible license, because Care2x is under gpl > - good backbone in the project - there should be more than one or two > developers and also well-known company. This ensures the quality and > stability. > - future of the project - I don't want to use a framework that will > die in year or two (or has already died). > > At the moment the best I could find is Zend Framework. It lacks lots of > features yet, but surely it evolves very fast. > > Yes, you are right that we have to introduce changes one by one. This is > why I want first to build an independent prototype, see how it looks > like and then find way how to integrate it in Care2x. > > PHP5 compatibility is definitely the first step. This will open many > doors. Then for example we can abandon adodb and build the db access on > top of framework classes like Zend_Db, then refactor user input for > security (Zend_InputFilter), then session, authorisation, MVC > architecture that will open widely the door for Ajax. And at some point > in time - extension points. > > Greetings > Kaloyan > > On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 13:00 +0300, Reinier Battenberg wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Have you been looking at specific frameworks already? I came across a > > few: > > > > - http://www.xaraya.com Very big CMS framework, very difficult, very > > powerfull. Includes: > > - user & group management > > - 'Extention points' (called hooks) > > - dynamic fields > > - related objects > > - multilingual > > - completely MVC > > > > - http://www.symfony-project.com/ Also MVC framework, more low-level. > > Generates a lot of code. > > - Used to built an application from scratch > > - generates code based on your object definitions > > - lets you code only the business rules, update/insert/delete is > > done for you > > - very ajax! > > > > My knowledge here is limited. Are there any more projects that we > > could leverage from (learn or use, both is possible). Somehow it > > worries me that we are discussing things that need a total rewrite. Is > > there any way that we can plan a step-by-step appoach? Like, first we > > do php5, then adodb, then change the security-model to let modules > > work together (referring to kaloyans prevous email), then introduction > > of extention points). > > and this all without braking too many current installations. > > > > rgds, > > > > Reinier > > > > Kaloyan Raev wrote: > > > Hi Amel, > > > > > > What I described was just high level idea. Now I have to dig in the > > > technical details how this can be implemented as php web framework. > > > Hopefully, soon I will have some prototype for demonstration. > > > > > > Translation is another story. There are many guidelines how to make > > > good language table, but I haven't investigated time to research them > > > and to compare with the care2x i18n. > > > > > > But, yes, you raise the problem of the language tables and refactoring > > > has to be planned for the next major version that will fit everyone > > > needs. > > > > > > Greetings > > > Kaloyan > > > > > > On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 11:12 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > hello to all, > > > > wonderfull idea. We can take Person Registration for example, > > > > You can manage that step. We in Croatia can make plugin for Croatia, > > > > now the problem her in Croatia is that we are changed almost > > > > everything...Database, Layout....and now we are out of main care2x > > > > project. And this is not ok. > > > > You Kaloyan, if You have time, can give us some more > > > > information how and where from can we start devolping that plugin. > > > > > > > > And finally, reason why we are changed layout is because > > > > language. For us only 30% of language table was good. Everthing else > > > > we have changed in PHP code. Do you maybe have some solutions for > > > > that. Because we don't want to change core care2x classes. > > > > > > > > Thank you very much, > > > > Amel Jakupovic > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > > > security? 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