If an entity has a considerable number of hospitals, possibly the government, possibly an entity that owns considerable other "business", then they could be forced to use whatever ERP they use.
Not having ERP available could very well mean double work and significant error. Without ERP Care2x is an autonomous system that demands extensive manual work by the hospital in order to bill, get paid and account or a full amount of customized work in order to have even billing, let alone ERP. Having ERP available offers a "complete" solution.
So some entities will need ERP and some would seem not to want or need. Also, as with many other projects, their resources and knowledge are focused on the main work of the project, as should be. Therefore I would suggest "interfacing" will be much better than "integrating". In this way, the project is not forced to commit to a particular ERP, offers the least impact and is not saddled with somehow keeping up with integrating upgrades...good luck with that!
Interfacing is a much bigger challenge than integrating, however, when done right it offers the greatest ongoing flexibility and the least interference to the project.
Steve
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Hello Lopo,
that is true. For us we have a direct requirement – there is a ERP needed. So I have also looked for free and open source ERP system and found some ( But your list is really nice). For the first step I planned to go the quite easiest way: Use an ERP system with the same technical conception: PHP and Mysql. Aim: to scratch up interfaces. Next would be integration of other ERP system and to find standardized interfaces.
You mentioned that the ERP system should not even integrated to care2x. Yes and no… typically answer from accounting people I would sayJ. The usability, the user acceptance is really important. So it should have a feeling of integration. These psychological aspects are important by the acceptance of the software and of the user – who have the feeling just to use a web application and not a really stupid complex ERP system like SAP. Risks of staff making mistakes in reason of having fear of –seeming- complex software is higher than using a ERP system what not fulfil each requirement but can be add
ed later.
Robert
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Hi all,
My modest opinion on this is that Care2x should have a plugin that would allow external access to data to the
billing applications, some sort of SOAP or even based on XHP server that is already there.
Making modules for external ERP packages to talk to Care2x would be a better idea and would require a small branch to coordinate that.
Many entities have their own billing application and fiscal and taxation policies are too diferent from
country to country that you don't have a real FOSS application that can do it all without a lot
of tweakning. There are already several F/OSS ERP/CRM packages ( http://www.principiolegal.com/software/erpcrm.php) and each entity should be able to choose it freely.
Also, billling staff in most hospitals are not even related with operating staff so they don't even need to deal with this. They just need to have acess to costumers, exams, medicines and other medical events and
prices don't need or even should be inside Care2x (although it could have eventually access with plugins).
My modest opinion on this is that Care2x should have a plugin that would allow external access to data to the
billing applications, some sort of SOAP or even based on XHP server that is already there.
Making modules for external ERP packages to talk to Care2x would be a better idea and would require a small branch to coordinate that.
Many entities have their own billing application and fiscal and taxation policies are too diferent from
country to country that you don't have a real FOSS application that can do it all without a lot
of tweakning. There are already several F/OSS ERP/CRM packages ( http://www.principiolegal.com/software/erpcrm.php) and each entity should be able to choose it freely.
Also, billling staff in most hospitals are not even related with operating staff so they don't even need to deal with this. They just need to have acess to costumers, exams, medicines and other medical events and
prices don't need or even should be inside Care2x (although it could have eventually access with plugins).
Tightly integrating an ERP with Care2x will bloat it more and will force many to hardcode it out.
In Portugal all national state hospitals and public institutions must use a special kind of fiscal policy that is diferent from private sector and even diferent from local autorities; so two hospitals (one private and one public) will have huge problems with a tightly integrated ERP.
SimpleInvoice is neat but completely useless in our fiscal environment here.
Just my opinion.
Best,
Lopo
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