Hi All,
It is sad to hear this news and Claudio thank you for your invaluable service.
Also, i quiet agree with what claudio has to say on his departing note, mauri
on his observations, robert's insight and Gjergj comments.
I have been actively promoting care2x in this part of the world and experienced
varied interests from the practicing physicians.
By and large physicians (in private practice, small and medium hospitals) are
appreciative and see the potential use of care2x framework. I have been
successful in convincing one such small hospital in using care2x of course with
some customisations (submitted last year and got included in the main branch).
They are actively using the solution for IP and are going to implement in the
next couple of months for OP too. During this time i will be implementing the
same solution with some additional modifications (i will very soon post the
code) to another small medium hospital. In the coming months i will be actively
promoting to single physicians too since some of them have shown interests.
The purpose of my narration above is to complement Robert's words. The project
and it's framework is the right thing to do and has acceptance. The question is
how to take it to the next level with 3g, practice management and things like
that. I am spending my thoughts, experience and time on these issues and in the
coming weeks will be sharing with you all for your advise/feedback/comments.
Some highlights of my next code submission are:
1. Accident register
2. File attachment facility for discharge summary
3. Some cosmetic changes to lab module (before plunging into 15189 )
4. OT list (operation list to be placed in the notice board)
5. Prescription (multiple entries at one go and linking with pharmacy data bank)
Regards
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Date:
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2008
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From:
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Subject:
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Hi
Zeeshan
Aziz,
>
Mauri;
>
Is
there
any
list
being
maintained
about
the
Hospitals
that
are
using
>
Care2x.
>
>
Regards
>
Zeeshan
Aziz
Actually
I
haven't
seen
such
a
page.
Do
you
have
such
a
link?
Robert
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2
Date:
Sun,
27
Jan
2008
22:18:19
+0100
From:
"Robert
Meggle"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:
Re:
[Care2002-developers]
Care2x
V
3.0
alpha
To:
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Hi
Claudio,
Elpidio,
Daniel
and
others,
Just
took
this
email
to
make
some
ideas
about
the
future.
First
of
all
let
say
also
thanks
from
my
side
to
Claudi,
for
the
hard
work
he
did.
Everyone
who
is
working
on
open
source
knows
how
much
work
it
is
and
how
much
of
positive
conditioning
is
needed
to
motivate
to
continue.
It's
a
fact
that
in
the
last
years
there
had
been
quite
interesting
requests
on
my
table
asking
for
care2x
and
how
it
can
be
used.
Some
tested
it,
some
are
just
interested
in
but
most
of
all
just
checked
it
out,
modified
it
and
I
lost
the
contact
to
them.
So
I
guess
they
are
fine
but
haven't
got
any
feedback
so
far.
Let's
bring
the
example
from
"Healthnet
Nepal",
there
was
a
request
2006
from
one
system
programmer
there
to
modify
care2x
2.0
HEAD-release
to
a
private
clinic
in
Nepal.
Now
he
is
not
working
at
this
company,
he
moved
to
an
ISP
as
system
admin
in
Kathmandu/Nepal.
His
follower
of
his
old
company
showed
me
once
the
work
he
did
asking
for
some
detail
questions
how
care2x
works.
So
here
I
saw
that
they
did
really
Nepalese
customaries,
but
not
usable
for
rest
of
the
world.
Also
some
diplomatic
issues
of
his
boss
of
getting
afraid
about
competition
when
he
will
publish
and
release
it
for
Nepal.
(Latter
just
a
feeling,
if
everyone
in
Nepal
reading
it,
and
my
interpretation
is
not
true,
just
feel
free
to
correct
it
:-)
So
that's
just
one
example
that
the
work
we
are
doing
are
correct.
Most
of
all
assigned
here
on
SF.NET
might
could
tell
similar
stories
and
some
of
the
developers
did
once
such
a
job
and
now
still
reading
the
developers
list.
I
will
not
say
that
care2x
is
lost,
but
actually
Mauri
is
right.
Care2x
is
an
application
for
Hospitals
what
is
worldwide
used.
Everyone
having
own
requirements
what
makes
the
availability
of
scalable
(and
also
free!)
software
so
extremely
difficult.
So
care2x
is
not
stopped.
By
conception
and
working
on
the
care3x,
we
are
really
on
a
right
trap
and
by
getting
all
of
these
influences,
ideas
and
concepts
worldwide
it
makes
clear
what
we
need:
Really
flexibility
and
techniques
used
rooted
to
the
soil
(Web
application
-
no
linked
compiled
stuff
from
c++
or
just
resource
killing
java
applets).
So
let's
start
from
the
beginning.
A
registration
module
what
can
be
used
woldwide,
in
Europe,
Africa,
Asia
and
all
other
continents.
Then
we
should
use
the
latest
technologies
like
MVC
to
have
a
good
control
to
add,
remove
or
disable
components
and
each
of
it
must
be
individual
changeable
-
and
most
of
the
modules
should
be
able
to
migrate.
Sounds
not
realistic,
but
it's
just
what
we
have..
a
free
care2x
used
now
worldwide
but
when
it's
running,
there
is
seldom
a
feedback
that
it
is
what
it
is:
Just
working.
Robert
>
-----Urspr?ngliche
Nachricht-----
>
Von:
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[mailto:care2002-
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Im
Auftrag
von
Dr.
med.
Daniel
>
Hinostroza
>
Gesendet:
Samstag,
26.
Januar
2008
18:14
>
An:
care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>
Betreff:
Re:
[Care2002-developers]
Care2x
V
3.0
alpha
>
>
Claudio,
>
perhaps
can
you
continue
as
release
manager
until
the
alpha
release
of
>
care2x
v
3.0
on
Feb
29,
2008?
>
Maybe
you
can
assign
tasks
and
we
can
sign-up
for
them
as
testers.
>
That
way,
you
can
resign
with
a
complete
release.
>
All
the
very
best,
>
Daniel
>
>
Claudio
Torbinio
escribi?:
>
>
First
alpha
release
of
care2x
v
3.0
will
be
delivered
on
02/29/2008.
>
>
Please
report
any
suggestion
and
working
possibility.
>
>
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Date:
Sun,
27
Jan
2008
16:46:45
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From:
"Elpidio
Latorilla"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:
Re:
[Care2002-developers]
Care2x
V
3.0
alpha
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Thank
you
very
much
Robert.
I
agree
with
your
statement
that
when
Care2x
becomes
adapted
to
a
local
hospital,
the
result
is
too
customized
and
not
useful
for
other
countries.
This
has
become
obvious
a
couple
of
years
ago
when
the
Italian
Olympic
Committe
Clinic
gave
us
all
their
modifications
of
Care2x.
The
product
was
too
much
customized
that
even
I
could
not
make
it
useful
for
my
locality.
This
packaged
has
been
on
the
internet
for
download
but
nobody
really
found
it
useful
(except
for
the
Italian
clinic
of
course).
The
Care2x
is
a
concept,
not
just
a
software
code.
If
we
embrace
the
concept
consistently,
we
can
have
a
product
that
is
adaptable
to
our
local
needs.
There
has
been
reports
of
Care2x
running
in
other
countries
(or
at
least
reports
of
customization
work
being
started)
but
follow
up
inquiries
did
not
add
much
to
the
initial
information
until
the
sporadic
contacts
ultimately
stopped.
This
is
not
to
be
seen
as
Care2x
being
stopped.
I
am
inclined
to
say
that
the
reason
is
more
or
less
similar
to
what
Robert
is
thinking
about
the
Nepalese
version.
Regards
to
everybody.
Elpidio
On
1/27/08,
Robert
Meggle
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
Hi
Claudio,
Elpidio,
Daniel
and
others,
>
>
Just
took
this
email
to
make
some
ideas
about
the
future.
First
of
all
let
>
say
also
thanks
from
my
side
to
Claudi,
for
the
hard
work
he
did.
Everyone
>
who
is
working
on
open
source
knows
how
much
work
it
is
and
how
much
of
>
positive
conditioning
is
needed
to
motivate
to
continue.
>
>
It's
a
fact
that
in
the
last
years
there
had
been
quite
interesting
>
requests
>
on
my
table
asking
for
care2x
and
how
it
can
be
used.
Some
tested
it,
some
>
are
just
interested
in
but
most
of
all
just
checked
it
out,
modified
it
>
and
>
I
lost
the
contact
to
them.
So
I
guess
they
are
fine
but
haven't
got
any
>
feedback
so
far.
Let's
bring
the
example
from
"Healthnet
Nepal",
there
was
>
a
>
request
2006
from
one
system
programmer
there
to
modify
care2x
2.0
>
HEAD-release
to
a
private
clinic
in
Nepal.
Now
he
is
not
working
at
this
>
company,
he
moved
to
an
ISP
as
system
admin
in
Kathmandu/Nepal.
His
>
follower
>
of
his
old
company
showed
me
once
the
work
he
did
asking
for
some
detail
>
questions
how
care2x
works.
So
here
I
saw
that
they
did
really
Nepalese
>
customaries,
but
not
usable
for
rest
of
the
world.
Also
some
diplomatic
>
issues
of
his
boss
of
getting
afraid
about
competition
when
he
will
>
publish
>
and
release
it
for
Nepal.
(Latter
just
a
feeling,
if
everyone
in
Nepal
>
reading
it,
and
my
interpretation
is
not
true,
just
feel
free
to
correct
>
it
>
:-)
>
>
So
that's
just
one
example
that
the
work
we
are
doing
are
correct.
Most
of
>
all
assigned
here
on
SF.NET
might
could
tell
similar
stories
and
some
of
>
the
>
developers
did
once
such
a
job
and
now
still
reading
the
developers
list.
>
>
I
will
not
say
that
care2x
is
lost,
but
actually
Mauri
is
right.
Care2x
is
>
an
application
for
Hospitals
what
is
worldwide
used.
Everyone
having
own
>
requirements
what
makes
the
availability
of
scalable
(and
also
free!)
>
software
so
extremely
difficult.
>
>
So
care2x
is
not
stopped.
By
conception
and
working
on
the
care3x,
we
are
>
really
on
a
right
trap
and
by
getting
all
of
these
influences,
ideas
and
>
concepts
worldwide
it
makes
clear
what
we
need:
Really
flexibility
and
>
techniques
used
rooted
to
the
soil
(Web
application
-
no
linked
compiled
>
stuff
from
c++
or
just
resource
killing
java
applets).
So
let's
start
from
>
the
beginning.
A
registration
module
what
can
be
used
woldwide,
in
Europe,
>
Africa,
Asia
and
all
other
continents.
Then
we
should
use
the
latest
>
technologies
like
MVC
to
have
a
good
control
to
add,
remove
or
disable
>
components
and
each
of
it
must
be
individual
changeable
-
and
most
of
the
>
modules
should
be
able
to
migrate.
Sounds
not
realistic,
but
it's
just
>
what
>
we
have..
a
free
care2x
used
now
worldwide
but
when
it's
running,
there
is
>
seldom
a
feedback
that
it
is
what
it
is:
Just
working.
>
>
Robert
>
>
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2008
00:12:50
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Sheldija
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:
Re:
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Hi
Robert,
the
ideas
you
discussed
are,
at
least
as
i
see
it,
the
way
to
go
with
the
future
of
care3x.
but,
there
is
a
major
problem
here
:
we
need
programmers,
much
more
than
testers,
at
least
for
now.
we're
all
conscious
that
the
new
version
needs
to
be
rewritten
from
scratch.
it's
hard,
i
know,
but
the
actual
code
just
can't
evolve
anymore
:(
we
really
need
a
full
mvc
code,
fully
modular
and
very
important
thing,
we
absolutely
need
a
kind
of
reporting
engine.
as
have
been
pointed
numerous
times
in
this
list.
an
idea
might
be
to
close
the
actual
code
base
&
start
anew.
but
it's
just
an
idea.
regards
gjergji
Robert
Meggle
wrote:
>
Hi
Claudio,
Elpidio,
Daniel
and
others,
>
>
Just
took
this
email
to
make
some
ideas
about
the
future.
First
of
all
let
>
say
also
thanks
from
my
side
to
Claudi,
for
the
hard
work
he
did.
Everyone
>
who
is
working
on
open
source
knows
how
much
work
it
is
and
how
much
of
>
positive
conditioning
is
needed
to
motivate
to
continue.
>
>
It's
a
fact
that
in
the
last
years
there
had
been
quite
interesting
requests
>
on
my
table
asking
for
care2x
and
how
it
can
be
used.
Some
tested
it,
some
>
are
just
interested
in
but
most
of
all
just
checked
it
out,
modified
it
and
>
I
lost
the
contact
to
them.
So
I
guess
they
are
fine
but
haven't
got
any
>
feedback
so
far.
Let's
bring
the
example
from
"Healthnet
Nepal",
there
was
a
>
request
2006
from
one
system
programmer
there
to
modify
care2x
2.0
>
HEAD-release
to
a
private
clinic
in
Nepal.
Now
he
is
not
working
at
this
>
company,
he
moved
to
an
ISP
as
system
admin
in
Kathmandu/Nepal.
His
follower
>
of
his
old
company
showed
me
once
the
work
he
did
asking
for
some
detail
>
questions
how
care2x
works.
So
here
I
saw
that
they
did
really
Nepalese
>
customaries,
but
not
usable
for
rest
of
the
world.
Also
some
diplomatic
>
issues
of
his
boss
of
getting
afraid
about
competition
when
he
will
publish
>
and
release
it
for
Nepal.
(Latter
just
a
feeling,
if
everyone
in
Nepal
>
reading
it,
and
my
interpretation
is
not
true,
just
feel
free
to
correct
it
>
:-)
>
>
So
that's
just
one
example
that
the
work
we
are
doing
are
correct.
Most
of
>
all
assigned
here
on
SF.NET
might
could
tell
similar
stories
and
some
of
the
>
developers
did
once
such
a
job
and
now
still
reading
the
developers
list.
>
>
I
will
not
say
that
care2x
is
lost,
but
actually
Mauri
is
right.
Care2x
is
>
an
application
for
Hospitals
what
is
worldwide
used.
Everyone
having
own
>
requirements
what
makes
the
availability
of
scalable
(and
also
free!)
>
software
so
extremely
difficult.
>
>
So
care2x
is
not
stopped.
By
conception
and
working
on
the
care3x,
we
are
>
really
on
a
right
trap
and
by
getting
all
of
these
influences,
ideas
and
>
concepts
worldwide
it
makes
clear
what
we
need:
Really
flexibility
and
>
techniques
used
rooted
to
the
soil
(Web
application
-
no
linked
compiled
>
stuff
from
c++
or
just
resource
killing
java
applets).
So
let's
start
from
>
the
beginning.
A
registration
module
what
can
be
used
woldwide,
in
Europe,
>
Africa,
Asia
and
all
other
continents.
Then
we
should
use
the
latest
>
technologies
like
MVC
to
have
a
good
control
to
add,
remove
or
disable
>
components
and
each
of
it
must
be
individual
changeable
-
and
most
of
the
>
modules
should
be
able
to
migrate.
Sounds
not
realistic,
but
it's
just
what
>
we
have..
a
free
care2x
used
now
worldwide
but
when
it's
running,
there
is
>
seldom
a
feedback
that
it
is
what
it
is:
Just
working.
>
>
Robert
>
>
>
>
>>
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Im
Auftrag
von
Dr.
med.
Daniel
>>
Hinostroza
>>
Gesendet:
Samstag,
26.
Januar
2008
18:14
>>
An:
care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>>
Betreff:
Re:
[Care2002-developers]
Care2x
V
3.0
alpha
>>
>>
Claudio,
>>
perhaps
can
you
continue
as
release
manager
until
the
alpha
release
of
>>
care2x
v
3.0
on
Feb
29,
2008?
>>
Maybe
you
can
assign
tasks
and
we
can
sign-up
for
them
as
testers.
>>
That
way,
you
can
resign
with
a
complete
release.
>>
All
the
very
best,
>>
Daniel
>>
>>
Claudio
Torbinio
escribi?:
>>
>>>
First
alpha
release
of
care2x
v
3.0
will
be
delivered
on
02/29/2008.
>>>
Please
report
any
suggestion
and
working
possibility.
>>>
CGT
>>>
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Date:
Mon,
28
Jan
2008
00:16:56
+0100
From:
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Sheldija
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Subject:
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to
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th
wonderful
job
you
have
done
all
these
time!!!
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