On Oct 28, 2005, at 8:03 AM, Donna Hanlon wrote:

Hi all,

For non-human segmenters, .....

For the record, this actually refers to human segmenters of nonhuman brains. We are hoping that Caret segmentation soon becomes sufficiently automated that chimpanzees can handle it, but we're not quite there yet....

DVE


yesterday I confirmed that if you segment from a volume whose voxdims are not cubic 1mm, Caret generates a surface whose mm coordinates are accurate (assuming the voxdims are accurate).

Example: With a cubic 0.5mm anatomical volume loaded in window 1 and the resulting fiducial surface in window 2, click in volume window on voxel along medial surface; then click on voxel 57 slices laterally (keeping coronal and axial slices constant). Fiducial distance is 28.3 (roughly half of 57):

VOXEL IJK(1, 86, 41) XYZ(0.0, -5.0, 0.0)
View Window 2 Fiducial XYZ: -0.1, -5.3, 0.8

VOXEL IJK(58, 86, 41) XYZ(28.5, -5.0, 0.0)
View Window 2 Fiducial XYZ: 28.2, -5.5, 0.2 Distance: 28.3

Most of you probably took this for granted, but in the old SureFit days, this wasn't true (unless you explicitly scaled the surface in Caret). It has probably been true in Caret since segmentation was added, but Caret used to prevent you from segmenting if voxdims were not cubic 1mm. John made a change a while back to enable non-human segmenters to avoid lying to Caret.

Donna
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