Hi Elise,

You can make the flat maps in Caret.  There is a tutorial for flattening 
available at http://brainvis.wustl.edu/wiki/index.php/Caret:Documentation.

Typically in the Van Essen laboratory, it is our practice to average the pial 
and smooth white matter surfaces to create a surface that approximates layer 4. 
 This can be done from the command line (caret_command -surface-average) or 
though the Caret5 GUI using File Menu->Surface Create Average Coordinate File.

Good luck,

John


On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Dickinson, Annelise (NIH/NIMH) [F] wrote:

> Hi Dr. Harwell,
> 
> Oh wow, that looks interesting! Hmmm I'll talk this all over with my post-doc 
> as soon as I can-but thank you so so much for all your help and advice and 
> please do let me know if you'd like any more information or data files from 
> us at all.
> 
> My post-doc's goal is to use Caret's atlases for a retinotopy experiment-do 
> you suggest simply making the flat maps themselves in Caret? If so, would you 
> happen to know the answer to the following question: Should the Fiducial 
> surface for flattening in Caret be set as the FreeSurfer smoothwm (this is 
> suggested in Beauchamp's Caret OpenWetWare flattening wiki) or another 
> FreeSurfer dataset such as pial or orig? We just want to make sure we are 
> catching all the appropriate brain tissue in the flat surface (since 
> FreeSurfer's segmetation creates different types of files from Caret's).
> 
> Please let me know if you have any insights on this issue, and thank you 
> again!!
> 
> -Elise
> 
> 
> On 12/1/09 1:59 PM, "John Harwell" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello Elise,
> 
> I examined the FreeSurfer patch file and it appears to be in a different 
> format than FreeSurfer patch files we have had in the past.  While I can 
> change caret so that it does not crash, I am unable to determine the 
> organization of the file so that it can be read.  You will need to run the 
> command "mris_convert -p  lh.cort.patch.flat.try1  
> lh.cort.patch.flat.try1.asc" to convert the file to ascii format which caret 
> is able to read.  While caret is then able to read the patch file, the 
> surface from the patch file does not look correct.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
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