the freesurfer ribbon volume is just a GM segmentation right?

why not leave at just "fill cavaties" (I didn't know that existed, that
seems the key thing)?

On 3 January 2012 18:00, <[email protected]> wrote:

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>   1. Re: painting the entire GM thickness accurately from      surface
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> From: Donna Dierker <[email protected]>
> To: "Caret, SureFit, and SuMS software users" <
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> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:43:46 -0600
> Subject: Re: [caret-users] painting the entire GM thickness accurately
> from surface data
> I just don't think there is an easy way to do this in Caret right now, but
> I know that won't stop you. ;-)
>
> You might try something like this:
>
> map surf paint to vol using white, specifying outer thickness >0
> map surf paint to vol using pial, specifying inner thickness >0
> union these volumes and fill cavities
> subtract the result from the Freesurfer ribbon volume
> min the resulting difference at 0
>
>
> On Dec 31, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Colin Reveley wrote:
>
> > Hi - (happy new year)
> >
> > Caret has a nice feature that lets you drop paints from a surface into a
> volume.
> >
> > but one thing is that all it really allows is for one to specifiy a
> distance above and below the suface. So, it does not allow one to fill the
> gray matter of a volume with paint accurately.
> >
> > But, I can fill the gray or white matter accurately by having a pial or
> white surface (from freesurfer), turning them into segmentations and
> subtracting one from the other.
> >
> > Or, wisely avoiding freesurfer, I could make a segmentation of the
> entire volume (threshold to segmentation), shrink a midthickness surface
> made with surefit so it pretty much fits the WM and subtract a segmentation
> of that from the volume segmentation.
> >
> > So, is there a way, could there be a way, might there one day be a way
> of moving paint data from surface to volume using a segmentation (derived
> from wherever) as a template, so that the entire cortical thickness is
> labelled by the paint volume, and accounting for thickness variation?
> >
> > this would be pretty handy. I could see it helping lots of things (for
> example the scabalebrainatlas).
> >
> > since I have a mask/segmentation of gray matter maybe there's a trick
> that I could use to accomplish this right now?
> >
> > All I can think of is to use the white, mid and pial surfaces I have
> (and maybe 2 more surfaces, the average of white and mid and of pial and
> mid), make paint volumes and OR them all togther.
> >
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Donna Dierker <[email protected]>
> To: and SuMS software users Caret SureFit <[email protected]>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:55:35 -0600
> Subject: [caret-users] Fwd: error in overlay
> This ended up off-line, but was resolved by switching to an English
> character set.
>
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> > From: Donna Dierker <[email protected]>
> > Date: December 30, 2011 1:58:51 PM CST
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [caret-users] error in overlay
> >
> > You can map cubic 2mm functional volumes.  It should be no problem,
> provided the orientation and origin are accurately specified in the NIFTI
> header.  If the volume is not NIFTI format, there can be issues.
> >
> > However, neither of these explains the specific error you are getting,
> which concerns the metric output file.  By any chance are you using a
> non-English character set on your computer?  I've never come across this
> particular error before, but it has been a problem in other I/O contexts.
>  If this is a potential issue, then how much of a hassle would it be to try
> Caret on another computer with an English character set?
> >
> >
> > On Dec 30, 2011, at 1:33 PM, vin . wrote:
> >
> >> thanx Donna,
> >>
> >> just checked, have write permission
> >> Just, I tried again with metric name
> ''map_data_0_30_Dec_2011_20_29_06.metric''
> >>
> >> still same message.
> >>
> >> http://prefrontal.org/blog/2009/04/using-caret-for-fmri-visualization/
> >> do u think, the above mentioned procedure is fine, if I use MNI space
> 2mm group results for overlaying ? or I need to transform them, before
> overlapping them in to PALS_fmri_mapping_atlasfile (as described in the
> above link )
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Donna Dierker <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hmmm.  That's odd.  What filename did you use?  Any spaces or
> characters other than alphanumeric?  Did it perhaps include a path that
> doesn't exist?  Finally, do you have write permission to the current
> directory, or valid specified path?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 30, 2011, at 10:50 AM, vin . wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thank you Donna,
> >>>
> >>> It was specified. even I tried changing name of it. still same error.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Donna Dierker <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Make sure your metric filename is not empty; see attached capture for
> where it is specified.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 29, 2011, at 10:22 AM, vin . wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear Caret Experts,
> >>>>
> >>>> A newbie to Caret, having problem to overlay .. getting error ''
> >>>> A metric file must be provided for metric mapping ''
> >>>>
> >>>> I followed this tutorial. Would like to overlay, few surface tracking
> results in Caret surface (Atlas)
> >>>>
> http://prefrontal.org/blog/2009/04/using-caret-for-fmri-visualization/
> >>>>
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