that's great, re: whole headthanks. Very pleased about that. Half would not
have been a problem (I could cut mine in half. Donna. Then they'd both be
in half :) indeed mirror it.) Both halves even better. thanks.

I used bet myself, and cleaned manually. Quite some time ago. I presumed
you folks did something like that when you made the surface, but maybe
surefit works on a whole head scan. I've never tried it.

So possibly the head extracted version I made is worth uploading, since I'm
enormously perfectionist as you know.

I'll have to check and be sure it's perfect though ;)

thanks again

Colin

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> From: Donna Dierker <[email protected]>
> To: "Caret, SureFit, and SuMS software users" <
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> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:09:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: [caret-users] f99 volumes
> David might have more squirreled away on his machine somewhere, but I
> couldn't find this in sumsdb or my archives.
>
> I'm sure some labs around here -- very likely the Snyder Lab -- have used
> FSL's Brain Extraction Tool (BET) on the F99 atlas for various purposes,
> but I'm not aware that they released anything like that for public
> consumption.  I do know from experience that the fractional intensity
> threshold and gradient matter.  Possibly loop through several permutations
> and judge which combo you like best.
>
> There is a fullHead minc volume here:
>
> http://brainmap.wustl.edu/pub/donna/SAM/F99UA1.tar.gz
> login pub
> password download
>
> Bit it's 256x256x180 -- not 240.  I don't think it's the most upstream
> volume we have, but it's the most upstream one I could find.
>
>
> On Sep 29, 2012, at 1:35 AM, Colin Reveley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Two enquiries, one more important than the other. Less important first:
> >
> > 1) Is there a brain extracted version of the F99 scan anywhere (a
> reference version)?
> >
> > I did do it myself, in fact took quite some time over it as I remember,
> but maybe there is a reference version that's better.
> >
> > I want to use it for some non-linear registration research. you need to
> register things that are definitely equivalent. And extracting monkey
> perfectly isn't that easy.
> >
> > 2) More important thing:
> >
> > One thing I'll be doing is registering F99 to a T1 of the animal in the
> attached image. That animal was, I'm told, in the same place at the same
> time as F99.
> >
> > For that, I wonder if there is a copy of the entire F99 scan?
> >
> > That would have huge value to me.
> >
> > I may be quite wrong, but it's very possible the original scan was
> 256x256x240 voxels and looked a lot like the attached picture. There's no
> doubt F99 was acquired in a similar scanner because he's sitting up. I
> don't think there are that many scanners like that. And I basically reckon
> it was the same coil and same or similar sequence, but I could be totally
> off.
> >
> > F99 is a really good scan in terms of artefact, in addition to being an
> atlas reference (as is this animal, but a different kind of atlas), so if
> you did have the entire thing that would be really great. We're in the
> atlas business for a bit. Sort of. F99 would be a really nice scan to have,
> for a bunch of reasons. It's unlikely we'd ever want to do more than
> experiment with it but obviously we'd ask if we did anything worth knowing
> about.
> >
> > I guess even if the scan was like that originally it's now long gone,
> but if not....that would be lovely.
> >
> > many thanks,
> >
> > Colin R
> >
> >
> >
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> From: Jochen Ditterich <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:42:56 -0700
> Subject: Re: [caret-users] f99 volumes
> The F99 full head volume is also part of these two datasets in SumsDB:
>
> http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/**archivelist.do?archive_id=**
> 684661&archive_name=MACAQUE.**LEFT_HEM.04-01-29.tar.gz<http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/archivelist.do?archive_id=684661&archive_name=MACAQUE.LEFT_HEM.04-01-29.tar.gz>
>
> http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/**archivelist.do?archive_id=**
> 684673&archive_name=MACAQUE.**RIGHT_HEM.04-01-29.tar.gz<http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/archivelist.do?archive_id=684673&archive_name=MACAQUE.RIGHT_HEM.04-01-29.tar.gz>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jochen
>
> On 10/1/2012 9:09 AM, Donna Dierker wrote:
>
>> David might have more squirreled away on his machine somewhere, but I
>> couldn't find this in sumsdb or my archives.
>>
>> I'm sure some labs around here -- very likely the Snyder Lab -- have
>> used FSL's Brain Extraction Tool (BET) on the F99 atlas for various
>> purposes, but I'm not aware that they released anything like that for
>> public consumption.  I do know from experience that the fractional
>> intensity threshold and gradient matter.  Possibly loop through
>> several permutations and judge which combo you like best.
>>
>> There is a fullHead minc volume here:
>>
>> http://brainmap.wustl.edu/pub/**donna/SAM/F99UA1.tar.gz<http://brainmap.wustl.edu/pub/donna/SAM/F99UA1.tar.gz>login
>>  pub
>> password download
>>
>> Bit it's 256x256x180 -- not 240.  I don't think it's the most
>> upstream volume we have, but it's the most upstream one I could
>> find.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 1:35 AM, Colin Reveley <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Two enquiries, one more important than the other. Less important
>>> first:
>>>
>>> 1) Is there a brain extracted version of the F99 scan anywhere (a
>>> reference version)?
>>>
>>> I did do it myself, in fact took quite some time over it as I
>>> remember, but maybe there is a reference version that's better.
>>>
>>> I want to use it for some non-linear registration research. you
>>> need to register things that are definitely equivalent. And
>>> extracting monkey perfectly isn't that easy.
>>>
>>> 2) More important thing:
>>>
>>> One thing I'll be doing is registering F99 to a T1 of the animal in
>>> the attached image. That animal was, I'm told, in the same place at
>>> the same time as F99.
>>>
>>> For that, I wonder if there is a copy of the entire F99 scan?
>>>
>>> That would have huge value to me.
>>>
>>> I may be quite wrong, but it's very possible the original scan was
>>> 256x256x240 voxels and looked a lot like the attached picture.
>>> There's no doubt F99 was acquired in a similar scanner because he's
>>> sitting up. I don't think there are that many scanners like that.
>>> And I basically reckon it was the same coil and same or similar
>>> sequence, but I could be totally off.
>>>
>>> F99 is a really good scan in terms of artefact, in addition to
>>> being an atlas reference (as is this animal, but a different kind
>>> of atlas), so if you did have the entire thing that would be really
>>> great. We're in the atlas business for a bit. Sort of. F99 would be
>>> a really nice scan to have, for a bunch of reasons. It's unlikely
>>> we'd ever want to do more than experiment with it but obviously
>>> we'd ask if we did anything worth knowing about.
>>>
>>> I guess even if the scan was like that originally it's now long
>>> gone, but if not....that would be lovely.
>>>
>>> many thanks,
>>>
>>> Colin R
>>>
>>>
>>>
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