On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Andrew Feller <afel...@lsu.edu> wrote:

>  I understand the scope of your question, but I was trying to go on a
> tangent about administrative screens and the need for a database as a whole.
>

That's fine, but we should probably make sure to answer the original
question first, since I have enough trouble getting responses for the
questions I actually ask :-)  As for whether there needs to be a database,
it depends on what data we need to make available.  Again, if you look at
the context of the original question, there's a set of meta data that is
optional for the SAML2 IdP meta data.  If we were autogenerating that meta
data, and we care about making it easy to update optional information, then
we need to store the source data somewhere (i.e. the Organization or Contact
Information) such that the meta data could be reconstructed.


>  As there is no wiki documentation about what types of administration
> screens are being considered for CAS4, I thought it would be a good time to
> bring it up and explore them as that conversation might answer how to deal
> with your specific question.
>

Again, my specific question is purely about configuring meta data for SAML2
support, and not about any other administrative screens.  Any other
administrative screens are less important because no one's committed to
helping out with them.  I'm all for requirements gathering for other
administrative functions (which if you look at the list archives, I've tried
before).  I need this information, hence the question, because its the piece
I'm working on now.  I'll pretend we're doing interative development ;-)


>
> I would be interested in hearing more about the topic if you have time to
> digress on the subject. =)
>

I'm all for digressing, I just don't want to lose track of the original
question because that's the piece that's currently being written.  Also, not
to put you on the spot, but if you're interested in Administrative
Screens/Functions, and you've got some free time, the Steering Committee
would be more than happy to let you drive the requirements gathering for the
administrative screens.  I'd obviously help where I can, but we have
actually minimal requirements at Rutgers for administrative functions beyond
Services Management. Let me know if you're interested.

Cheers,
Scott


>
>
> On 6/27/09 9:32 PM, "Scott Battaglia" <scott.battag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The only thing I'm asking about is whether we need an administrative
> interface to store the data that's optional for SAML meta data, such as
> organization and stuff.  If people aren't really going to bother putting in
> that data then I won't make an interface for it.
>
> I already have a tool to automatically generate the required meta data, it
> was just if I needed something to allow someone to enter the optional stuff.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Andrew Feller <afel...@lsu.edu> wrote:
>
> Can you elaborate on the purpose and function of the administrative
> screens?  I was looking at the CAS4 wiki pages (
> http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/CAS4UM/ ) and didn’t notice any
> documentation talking about them.
>
> Are they for A) Viewing state of currently running CAS instance, B)
> Changing runtime settings of live CAS instance, C) Changing startup settings
> of CAS instance, D) All of the above?
>
> Thanks,
> A-
>
>
>
> On 6/26/09 1:36 PM, "Scott Battaglia" <scott.battag...@gmail.com <
> http://scott.battag...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> I'm working on some of the pieces required to support SAML2 in CAS4,
> including the generation of the appropriate IdP Meta Data automatically etc.
>
> One of the optional components of the IdP meta data is Organizational
> information.  Does anyone feel like they would actually publish that?  If
> not we could leave it out of the auto-generated piece and it would mean less
> admin UI.  Those who want it can manually construct their IdP meta data.
>
> Also, do we want a command line tool for creating the Public/Private Key
> pairs?  Doing it from some form of administrative screen means we'd most
> likely have a database requirement for that information.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
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