With all due respect, we do need a roadmap.  As a member of the steering
committee, you initially raised a concern about our long term road map, and
started the discussion to re-vamp it.  I have not yet seen the results of
that.  Andrew volunteered (if I recall correctly) to start/seed the
conversation on the dev list.  The only conversation I see in my archives is
titled "vision for the services registry tool in CAS 3.5" in which Andrew
posted his link AND took the initiative without discussion to update JIRA.
 Marvin pushed back about aligning this vision with the roadmap, which had
ideas on revamping that same tool (as well as other ideas).  As far as I am
aware, this discussion has not happened.

With regards to what is the "best" roadmap, I think that is up for
discussion, which is what was supposed to happen.  This was our roadmap,
until concerns were raised about supporting SAML2:
https://wiki.jasig.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=28574039

Also, as a member of the steering committee and a now recently re-active
committer (you had 6 commits in January 2005 until your most recent
commits), I would highly recommend ensuring that you understand the scope of
the CAS community.  The CAS community is made up of institutions of higher
education, companies that support higher education, non-profits, government
agencies, corporations, and individuals.  The community as a whole drives
the improvements to the CAS3 code base as well as CAS4.  There are not two
classes of citizens.  Both higher education AND all other interested parties
are seen as equals.  What matters is that the project continues to evolve in
the way the community wants it to.

I'm not sure I follow the "have we given up on 3.x" comment.  There has just
recently been both a 3.4.9 and 3.4.10 release, with bug fixes assigned for a
3.4.11 release.  What I'm pushing  back on is the lack of completion of the
roadmap that the steering committee committed to doing.  We owe it the CAS
community to create a sustainable project (for example, ClearPass hasn't
been updated since support for the CAS 3.4.6 release).

Kind regards,
Scott


On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 9:32 PM, William G. Thompson, Jr.
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Roadmap? We don't need no stinking roadmap! :)
>
> Seriously though, I'm very much in favor of figuring out how to move
> forward together on improvements to the 3.x line of development.
>
> At this point I think Andrew's version is the best we have as far as a
> roadmap:
> https://wiki.jasig.org/display/~awp9/Andrew+Personal+Vision+for+CAS+Roadmap
>
> The improvements he is proposing are consistent with the release
> policy and the features are driven directly by the adopting higher ed
> community.  What we need now is the kind of collaboration and
> communication that comes from working together via the best
> representation of the Jasig model (open, honest, supportive,
> meritocracy).
>
> +1 for a place to collaborate on modest evolutionary improvements to
> CAS3 driven by the Higher Ed community.
>
> I'm sort of stunned actually that creating a branch for ongoing
> develoment is even a discussion point.  Have we given up on 3.x?
>
> Best,
> Bill
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Scott Battaglia
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > -1
> > There is no 3.5 roadmap nor is there agreement to include ClearPass.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Andrew Petro <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd like to create a branch
> >>
> >> https://source.jasig.org/cas3/branches/cas-3_5_dev
> >>
> >> seeded as a copy of
> >>
> >> https://source.jasig.org/cas3/tags/cas-server-3.4.10/
> >>
> >> for the purpose of enabling collaboration among CAS committers on
> >> evolutionary development towards a release that could be called CAS 3.5
> >> under the CAS project release policy.
> >>
> >> The work I'd like to share via that branch in the near term is
> >> evolutionary change to the Services Registry as articulated here and
> >> incorporation of ClearPass.
> >>
> >> Any objections?
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
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